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re: How French was almost decimated and efforts to save it in Louisiana

Posted on 2/4/25 at 12:52 pm to
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/4/25 at 12:52 pm to
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I took German in school for several years. Now that's a real man's language. Too bad we didn't vote on German way back in the 1700s to give a giant finger to the British.


I did as well.

Looking back it was beyond stupid for any high schools to be teaching anything outside of spanish or making them retake English.

Now that I think about it, I think everyone should take English twice.
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 2/4/25 at 12:56 pm to
While in undergraduate school in FLA, I worked summers off shore from Louisiana as a roughneck on oil rigs for 1-3 weeks on, 1week off in the early 70's. There was not a word spoken in English (sometimes broken English). It felt like I was in a foreign country. The booray games they played were very emotional and loud.

Reading a book now ('Frenchie') detailing how the Cajuns in WWII were bilingual and greatly helped our troops in France communicate with the locals. The Cajuns were given special treatment by our armed services Brass.
This post was edited on 2/4/25 at 1:06 pm
Posted by MISSOURI WALTZ
Wolf Island, MO
Member since Feb 2016
927 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 12:56 pm to
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Too bad we didn't vote on German way back in the 1700s to give a giant finger to the British.

There was never a vote to make German the official language of the United States. For that matter there was never a vote to make English our official language. The fact is that there is no official language of the United States.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
16504 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 12:58 pm to
My paternal grandmother spoke only French until she went to school in Avoyelles Parish. She could speak it fluently when she passed but that was in the 70's. I had plenty of relatives who could speak it when I was a kid, don't have any that can speak it any longer, at least that I know.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
82735 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 12:58 pm to
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there is no official language of the United States.


yes there is comrade! it's called 'murcan!!!
Posted by DrewBoy
Member since Jun 2022
114 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 1:04 pm to
I remember my grandmother and her sister speaking French. But only when they didn’t want us to understand what they were saying.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
60780 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 1:06 pm to
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The booray games they played was very emotional and loud.





Oh man, that brings me back to my sitter when I was a kid. My parents would drop me off when they went out at night to a a family originally from Opelousas. She watched me growing up, and had family across the street also from Opelousas. They would put me in the corner to sleep and play booray all night carrying on speaking Cajun until my folks came to pick me up. It would often get a bit heated and loud as well. She quite literally made the absolute best chicken stew I have ever had in my life, my favorite dish to this day. I’ve never had one even close.




Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
41012 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 1:15 pm to
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I love her and I love her more for saying "The Kings Language"

We dont bow to a king. I like her mentality.


Me, too. She was born in 1878. My grandmother was her youngest child and my mother was her youngest. They both lived to 100.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
34967 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 1:20 pm to
I'm not going to link the the YT video but a few years before she died my cousin's now wife interviewed my grandmother in French. My cousin's wife was taking a French class at LSU and it was for a project and every year or so I'll go watch it again.
Posted by southpawcock
Member since Oct 2015
16052 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 1:24 pm to
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There was never a vote to make German the official language of the United States. For that matter there was never a vote to make English our official language. The fact is that there is no official language of the United States.


I definitely think my high school German (American-born of Hungarian descent) teacher propagated that theory anyway. But yes, I believe you are correct, sir.

LINK

Interesting nonetheless.
This post was edited on 2/4/25 at 1:25 pm
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
17884 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 1:42 pm to
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The teachers killed her for being left handed?



Killed her------no, but she would get the occasional scolding and just a couple times got slapped on the hand with a ruler. That crap ended when our mom went to the school and raised enough hell for it to never happen again.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
23251 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 1:44 pm to
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Reading a book now ('Frenchie') detailing how the Cajuns in WWII were bilingual and greatly helped our troops in France communicate with the locals. The Cajuns were given special treatment by our armed services Brass.

I thought Cajun French was different from traditional French and didn’t translate well?
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
23251 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 1:48 pm to
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Looking back it was beyond stupid for any high schools to be teaching anything outside of spanish or making them retake English.

I hear ya. My local high school offered German but not Spanish. I think it was because TOPS required foreign language classes and they already had a teacher on staff who spoke German so they just ahead and started offering German due to the influx of students looking to take foreign language classes.
Posted by Zeta_Zeta
TX
Member since Jul 2018
84 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 2:04 pm to
But did you take Soccer Board French or Cajun French
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
14215 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 2:06 pm to
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Me, too. She was born in 1878. My grandmother was her youngest child and my mother was her youngest. They both lived to 100.


Talk about rare.
Posted by TigerGman
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Member since Sep 2006
12374 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 2:10 pm to
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I thought Cajun French was different from traditional French and didn’t translate well?


Yes that's true, but it's not THAT different. My parents went to France in the 70's and said they managed with their Cajun fairly well.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
82735 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 2:11 pm to
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My parents went to France in the 70's and said they managed with their Cajun fairly well.


did they go on that trip where EWE chartered a 747? or was that in the early 80s?
This post was edited on 2/4/25 at 2:25 pm
Posted by TigerGman
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Member since Sep 2006
12374 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 2:32 pm to
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did they go on that trip where EWE chartered a 747? or was that in the early 80s?

Heh. He was a big EWE guy, but I don't think so.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
15877 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 7:16 pm to
I was born in Marerro and grew up there for a little while until we moved to Lafayette when I was in 3rd grade.

My grandparents and great uncles / aunts all spoke Cajun French fluently amongst themselves especially at bourre games but didn’t pass it down to my parents or us grandkids.

My paw paw was from Lockport and used to run trap lines with my great uncle to help the family make ends meet. They actually used to paddle down the bayou in a pirogue to the boat stop to go to school. He fought in Pattons army during WWII and would shoot deer to give to the civilians in France with whom he could converse easily. His mom who was in her 90s when I was a little kid didn’t speak English at all, only French.

I so regret not learning but we moved away and several visits a year wasn’t enough exposure to ask them to teach me.

My wife was a Thibodeaux and her grandpa also spoke Cajun French but didn’t teach them either.

It really sucks that it hasn’t been passed down more than it was.

I took French in high school and for 3 semesters at USL. The last one was French literature and we had to read classic French novels in French and write plot analysis book reports in French.

And I still can’t speak it, that’s not how you learn to make it stick. You have to have someone to use it with.


When I get too old to fish and hunt maybe I’ll try to find some old fricks if there are any left here in Erath or over in Pierre Part if I have to go way over there to teach me and play cards and tell stories.
This post was edited on 2/4/25 at 7:35 pm
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
15877 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 7:29 pm to
@Nawlens gator

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Reading a book now ('Frenchie') detailing how the Cajuns in WWII were bilingual and greatly helped our troops in France communicate with the locals. The Cajuns were given special treatment by our armed services Brass.


Can you post the info on this book, sounds like I woukd enjoy it. Can’t seem to find it on google.

Edit: nvm, found it:

Jason P Theriot Frenchie: The Story of French-Speaking Cajuns of World War II
This post was edited on 2/4/25 at 7:35 pm
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