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re: How do you deal
Posted on 11/22/19 at 11:04 am to DiamondDog
Posted on 11/22/19 at 11:04 am to DiamondDog
Welcome to my life. It’s extremely frustrating. There is really no way to deal with it but just shut your mouth and keep going to work. Which I find hard to do.I’ll just stay away from them as much as possible
Posted on 11/22/19 at 11:04 am to DiamondDog
First, sit down and have a conversation with the coworker that your having an issue with. Be frank but not confrontational and LISTEN. Employees tend to talk at one another instead of trying to figure out how to work together. Offer possible solutions to the employee you're talking to and take notes.
If your one on one conversation doesn't go well, talk to the direct manager/supervisor. Bring notes to this meeting with manager/supervisor from your conversation with the slacking employee and notes on why this one employee is so incompetent that it's keeping you, the group, from meeting your goals.
Take detailed notes on the feedback you get from the manager. If the manager agrees this employee's performance is impeding success, try to help the manager come up with specific ways to address the employee's performance. Send a follow up email to the manager with the notes you took during the meeting with the manager - BE PROFESSIONAL AS YOU'VE EVER BEEN IN AN EMAIL.
Listen to the manager. There are many reasons why managers keep around employees that may look less than stellar. If you work in a group, you're not the first person to bring up the incompetent employee. Decent managers know their employees well. Moreover, managers have to discern what is a valid complaint about another employee and complaints from an employee who is just not working well with another employee..... most complaints are employees just not working well together. Don't expect the manager to address your complaint if you're the only one complaining.
If you can't get the manager to resolve the issue, go home and do some introspection. You're either going to have to work around the slacker or submit your resignation.
The manager/supervisor will have a choice to make if you submit your resignation..... if you're the most valuable employee the manager will work something out. If the manager does nothing, it's not the place for you and you'd be happier somewhere else.
No matter where you work there will be less than stellar coworkers. There are not a lot of stellar employees and sometimes we just have to work with what we got.
Remember this: "Be patient; water finds it's level." Prove you're a stellar employee and you'll be rewarded. Show your manager his/her day is a little less stressful because you're around to build your credibility with your manager. Good things will come, just not immediately.
If your one on one conversation doesn't go well, talk to the direct manager/supervisor. Bring notes to this meeting with manager/supervisor from your conversation with the slacking employee and notes on why this one employee is so incompetent that it's keeping you, the group, from meeting your goals.
Take detailed notes on the feedback you get from the manager. If the manager agrees this employee's performance is impeding success, try to help the manager come up with specific ways to address the employee's performance. Send a follow up email to the manager with the notes you took during the meeting with the manager - BE PROFESSIONAL AS YOU'VE EVER BEEN IN AN EMAIL.
Listen to the manager. There are many reasons why managers keep around employees that may look less than stellar. If you work in a group, you're not the first person to bring up the incompetent employee. Decent managers know their employees well. Moreover, managers have to discern what is a valid complaint about another employee and complaints from an employee who is just not working well with another employee..... most complaints are employees just not working well together. Don't expect the manager to address your complaint if you're the only one complaining.
If you can't get the manager to resolve the issue, go home and do some introspection. You're either going to have to work around the slacker or submit your resignation.
The manager/supervisor will have a choice to make if you submit your resignation..... if you're the most valuable employee the manager will work something out. If the manager does nothing, it's not the place for you and you'd be happier somewhere else.
No matter where you work there will be less than stellar coworkers. There are not a lot of stellar employees and sometimes we just have to work with what we got.
Remember this: "Be patient; water finds it's level." Prove you're a stellar employee and you'll be rewarded. Show your manager his/her day is a little less stressful because you're around to build your credibility with your manager. Good things will come, just not immediately.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 11:10 am to DiamondDog
I guess I would need more details. Like they are just making minor mistakes? They are screwing up stuff that takes days to repair? You are having to do two people's workloads?
Posted on 11/22/19 at 11:12 am to DiamondDog
High protein diet. Fart around them all day long.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 12:28 pm to DiamondDog
I didn't see this asked: do you both report to the same manager?
If so, that is pretty tough. But you could do two things to help yourself / your org:
1. If you are familiar with this individual's tasks, help them by building a checklist they can follow. And help them develop a training plan.
2. Document how this other resource is negatively impacting the performance of the dept and discuss this with your manager.
As the other lengthy (and informative) post stated, at each step document all your interactions and recap them in emails that you send to either your manager and / or the other resource.
One thing I haven't seen is to always have positive intent. ASSUME this other resource wants to improve and if you can, help them get there.
You are in the position to help make one of two things happen: either the resource will improve their performance or they'll be put on a performance management plan.
If so, that is pretty tough. But you could do two things to help yourself / your org:
1. If you are familiar with this individual's tasks, help them by building a checklist they can follow. And help them develop a training plan.
2. Document how this other resource is negatively impacting the performance of the dept and discuss this with your manager.
As the other lengthy (and informative) post stated, at each step document all your interactions and recap them in emails that you send to either your manager and / or the other resource.
One thing I haven't seen is to always have positive intent. ASSUME this other resource wants to improve and if you can, help them get there.
You are in the position to help make one of two things happen: either the resource will improve their performance or they'll be put on a performance management plan.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 12:35 pm to ctiger69
Go through this process often; it's a running joke in the office. Mention it to their boss, and listen to the response "well, he/her just hasn't been trained."
My response is always "well, when are you going to train him/her?" Then I just sit there for an extended time and enjoy the uncomfortable silence.
My response is always "well, when are you going to train him/her?" Then I just sit there for an extended time and enjoy the uncomfortable silence.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 2:06 pm to Kentucker
quote:
Never assume that good deeds will be noticed. We live in a negative culture where screw-ups and retards get attention and love, not the good guys. If you don’t want one who you’ve helped to become your boss, be sure it’s clear that you are responsible for his perceived success.
This- One of the reasons I decided to retire early, tired of the b.s. that management overlooked...
Posted on 11/22/19 at 2:13 pm to DiamondDog
In general I would help them help themselves. I would offer some coaching but up to the point where they are actively trying to improve themselves. I they don’t want to read and learn the material to get better I will then avoid expending any further effort on them and let nature take it’s course. Honest feed back all around when asked.
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