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re: How did a planet form that can support life but the life on it cannot live forever?

Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:01 pm to
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:01 pm to
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interesting to me that all of the universe have been around for billions of years but in the past couple thousand years a lifeform decided to finally get smart enough to do all of this.

You’re aware that untold numbers of other life forms could have existed or do exist elsewhere in the universe during that time and we’d never know about it because they’re too far away?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:01 pm to
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I dont think science can answer.


Lol, yes it can.

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I think the only logical explanation is a higher lifeform.


That is not the only logical explanation lmao.
Posted by crimsoncoded94
Georgiana
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:03 pm to
I said I think the only logical answer.

Thats my opinion.

Just like science has its own opinions.
Posted by crimsoncoded94
Georgiana
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:03 pm to
Then answer it.
Posted by crimsoncoded94
Georgiana
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:04 pm to
Yes im aware of this im speaking of lifeforms on earth. If any lifeform on earth existed capable of written language wed have it
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:05 pm to
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I said I think the only logical answer.

Thats my opinion.
And I disagreed with it.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:06 pm to
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Thats my opinion.

Just like science has its own opinions.
Your opinion is equally weighted and as valid as scientific "opinions" arrived at with the use of data and replicable outcomes? You obviously dont know what you dont know. Earlier you were posting that "science" created life.
Posted by crimsoncoded94
Georgiana
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:07 pm to
If science created life
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:09 pm to
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If science created life
What does this mean? Science is not an entity.
Posted by crimsoncoded94
Georgiana
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:09 pm to
You say the universe has no logic or goal in how it does things yet the things that derive from it use logic?

How does that make sense
Posted by crimsoncoded94
Georgiana
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:09 pm to
The universe. If the universe created life
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:10 pm to
You posted this...
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Wouldn't science create beings that could survive forever


Nobody says "science" created life. Nature, nature.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
4171 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:11 pm to
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If it didn't want sin, it should have made us without sin. Now if it didn't know we would destroy each other or the planet, that's understandable.



It seems like you're trying to fit God into human logic. Why would God, of all things, be limited to such a finite box??
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:12 pm to
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The universe. If the universe created life
As stated before, your confusion stems from anthropomorphizing the universe.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:12 pm to
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Then answer it.



Well we can only have potential answers which we can be whittled down through experiments to give us a rough framework. From a purely physiological point of view, consciousness allows us to make predictions about the environment and the things inside it, hence why that consciousness seems innate and is difficult to replicate. Our anatomical relationship with that environment also informs that consciousness. If you didn't have opposable thumbs, your motor skills would be different and thus the relationship you would have to an environment. The reason why I invoke environment here is that it is a robust method for selection by itself. Hence why things that are highly protective to an individual's or species survival give the appearance of being 'hard-coded' and are among the most difficult things to reproduce in something like a robot, for example.

Your answer uses absolutely no logic and actually retreats quite a bit. The absence of a definitive answer is not an argument for a higher being. Even where there are definitive answers, like in evolution, I don't suspect you would either know what they are or believe them if you did.
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:13 pm to
Planets and stars die all the time. They just live longer.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79911 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:15 pm to
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Even where there are definitive answers, like in evolution, I don't suspect you would either know what they are or believe them if you did
We've gone through this. He doesnt believe in the fossil record and wants to know why we cant see the asteroid that killed off most dinosaurs if we are able to supposedly see billions of years into the past.
This post was edited on 2/20/26 at 5:16 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:16 pm to
Lmao. He might as well be a lost cause.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38337 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:17 pm to
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You say the universe has no logic or goal in how it does things yet the things that derive from it use logic?

How does that make sense
Think of it like this:

A river has no goals. It isn’t trying to reach the ocean. It just follows gravity and terrain. No intention, no plan.

But creatures that evolve along that river can develop brains that model cause and effect. They can notice patterns in how water flows, where fish gather, where floods happen. From those patterns, they build logic.

The river doesn’t “use logic.” It simply behaves according to physical laws. Organisms inside the river system evolve nervous systems that can represent those patterns abstractly. Logic is just a tool brains use to model regularities in the environment.

The universe doesn’t have a goal. It has regularities. Brains evolved inside those regularities. Logic is just a compressed way of describing consistent patterns in how reality behaves.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:17 pm to
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