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re: How did a planet form that can support life but the life on it cannot live forever?

Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:32 pm to
Posted by jchamil
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:32 pm to
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So no other life form that existed on earth was smart enough to record its own existence but we are and no other life form questions their existence but we do.


How do you know this?
Posted by crimsoncoded94
Georgiana
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:32 pm to
No other lifeform has written language. No other lifeform advanced past using basic tools.
Posted by DustyDinkleman
Here
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:33 pm to
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And who determined that? Us or the planet? Since nothingness created the planet cant nothingness decide how long it gets to live?


You keep throwing around the word “nothingness.”

Posted by crimsoncoded94
Georgiana
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:34 pm to
Because if they did they would have evolved enough by now to tell us. Arent we the top life form? We are responsible for every other life form. If we wanted to we could extinct the other life forms here.

Dont lifeforms evolve according to their surroundings?

If we have the same surroundings then why did we develop the brain to do all of this but nothing else did?
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:37 pm to
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Dont you think its weird we question life if we just simply exist?



We question life bc we exist.

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Why are we the only lifeform that questions life yet we are the youngest lifeform according to science.


To take a move from your playbook, how do we know we are the only life form that questions life? But to guess, we have the most evolved pre frontal cortex compared to other primates. It gives our brains extra horsepower to ponder abstractly. Dolphins have a similar complex frontal brain region but the blueprint is a different.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:37 pm to
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Because if they did they would have evolved enough by now to tell us. Arent we the top life form? We are responsible for every other life form. If we wanted to we could extinct the other life forms here

You think we could "extinct" microbes?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:39 pm to
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Why did the nothingness create entropy. If the goal is to evolve and outlive other beings than why did the nothingness limit itself?
Entropy wasn’t “created” and nothingness doesn’t have goals.

Entropy is just a statistical property of physical systems. When you have energy and matter distributed in space, there are vastly more disordered configurations than ordered ones. Systems naturally move toward the more probable states. That’s the second law of thermodynamics.

There is no built-in cosmic goal to “evolve and outlive other beings.” Evolution has no objective function. It’s just replication plus variation plus selection. Organisms that leave more copies persist. It’s math over time.

Nothingness didn’t limit itself. Physical laws describe how energy and matter behave once they exist. Entropy is part of that structure. No intent, no self-competition, no self-limiting. Just statistical mechanics operating on a universe that began in a very low-entropy state.

Your confusion comes from treating physics like psychology. The universe doesn’t want, plan, optimize, or restrict itself.
This post was edited on 2/21/26 at 2:44 am
Posted by crimsoncoded94
Georgiana
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:39 pm to
We created religion and politics. We created a phone that can instantly communicate with other phones all across the world.

To think every lifeform just spawned from a blob or something floating in space but our blob was just miles smarter
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:42 pm to
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To think every lifeform just spawned from a blob or something floating in space but our blob was just miles smarter
No one thinks this.
Posted by crimsoncoded94
Georgiana
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:43 pm to
In that scenario I dont trust the odds that humans advanced so much faster than any other lifeform given far less time to do so.

The universe just happened to take billions of years to finally produce us and now we are having this convo when no other lifeform was capable of it.
Posted by crimsoncoded94
Georgiana
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:43 pm to
Then how do lifeforms exist?
Posted by crimsoncoded94
Georgiana
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:48 pm to
So science can tell us how long a planet existed due to light, we can put a pebble in a machine and it can tell us that it is millions of years old,

it can tell us that a comet wiped out dinosaurs millions or billions of years ago,

But when it comes to how we got here and why we are the only lifeform intelligent enough to question our own existence the best answer it has for me is "deal with it bro"

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:49 pm to
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So science can tell us how long a planet existed due to light, we can put a pebble in a machine and it can tell us that it is millions of years old,

it can tell us that a comet wiped out dinosaurs millions or billions of years ago,

But when it comes to how we got here and why we are the only lifeform intelligent enough to question our own existence the best answer it has for me is "deal with it bro"


You’re right. Probably better off to ditch all of it.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:52 pm to
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Dont lifeforms evolve according to their surroundings?
Over thousands of years. You wont see it in your lifetime.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
27081 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:53 pm to
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But when it comes to how we got here and why we are the only lifeform intelligent enough to question our own existence the best answer it has for me is "deal with it bro"

Scientists do attempt to study and hypothesize these things. How is that worse that some dude in the sky made it all?

Whatever created the universe isnt understandable by us because it is outside our realm of reality. That is God. We are people. It sparked life for all things and we are one form of that.
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:53 pm to
That might be tGoat OT meme
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38334 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:54 pm to
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Then how do lifeforms exist?
Chemistry allows complex systems to form under the right conditions.

Early Earth had liquid water, energy sources like sunlight and lightning, and the basic elements that make up organic molecules. We know those elements naturally form amino acids and other building blocks under certain conditions because they’ve been produced in lab experiments. That part isn’t speculative.

What’s still being worked out in detail is the exact pathway from simple chemistry to the first self-replicating systems. There are several hypotheses, and none are complete yet. But once you have self-replication with variation, evolution follows automatically. Replication plus variation plus selection is enough. No goals, no desires, no cosmic intention.

Nothing about that requires “blobs spawning fully formed organisms.” It requires time, chemistry, and physical laws operating consistently.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:55 pm to
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Then how do lifeforms exist?



How do you have consciousness?
Posted by crimsoncoded94
Georgiana
Member since Aug 2025
2422 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:57 pm to
Thats a great question. I dont think science can answer. I think the only logical explanation is a higher lifeform that can create and design dna
This post was edited on 2/20/26 at 4:58 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38334 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:00 pm to
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Thats a great question. I dont think science can answer. I think the only logical explanation is a higher lifeform that can create and design dna
"Science doesn’t have a final answer” is not the same as “the only logical explanation is X."
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