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re: How are y’all preparing for the collapse of the dollar?
Posted on 2/28/21 at 5:36 pm to bigberg2000
Posted on 2/28/21 at 5:36 pm to bigberg2000
quote:all of a sudden
all the sudden
Posted on 2/28/21 at 5:40 pm to Jyrdis
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yet inflation has been around the 1-3% mark
according to CPI, which isn’t a complete measurement
For example, the cost of college tuition, the price of real estate, and the price of equities have not increased by only 1%-3%.
Commodity goods have been spared for the most part from these higher rates of price increases, sure. But the increases shown on the M2 money supply chart for 2008-2020 pale in comparison to what we did and how quickly we did it in just one year. The only thing holding inflation back right now from commodity goods is the velocity of money isn’t quite there yet, and the extra money that is in circulation has virtually all found its way into equities and real estate, propagating inflation in those sectors.
In response to the Fed being able to contain this, I’m not optimistic. Pretty sure they just had to print money just in order to buy bonds to prevent yields from going up on those treasury bonds because people think inflation is coming.
This post was edited on 2/28/21 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 2/28/21 at 5:42 pm to Vastmind
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dollar collapse
What happens to an individual’s debt when they owe 100k on something like mortgage for a house with a fixed rate?
And the inflation gets so bad that a person’s income is now 100k a month.
That bitch is now paid off in a few months.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 5:43 pm to Tarps99
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What happens to an individual’s debt when they owe 100k on something like mortgage for a house with a fixed rate?
And the inflation gets so bad that a person’s income is now 100k a month.
That bitch is now paid off in a few months.
Kind of hard to pay off your mortgage even at those rates when your groceries are consuming 100% of your paycheck.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 5:44 pm to Tarps99
That’s why, with all due respect to Dave Ramsey, paying off a mortgage early that has a low interest rate in favor of investing in equities in an inflationary environment is mostly nonsense.
This post was edited on 2/28/21 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 2/28/21 at 5:44 pm to Vastmind
Learn to speak Mandarin Chinese.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 5:45 pm to fallguy_1978
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If the dollar ever loses its world reserve currency status - look out.
Y'all should read up on the importance of the Petro dollar.
If we cease to be the currency that the world must trade oil with we are fricked beyond fricked.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 5:46 pm to Ross
quote:Education didn't increase because of the dollar losing value, right? It is because the govt will loan money to a bunch of window lickers who have no business being in college. The schools see this and raise tuition accordingly. Same with real estate and mortgage lending, every dipshit gets a loan. They aren't increasing for the same reasons as a loaf of bread.
For example, the cost of college tuition, the price of real estate, and the price of equities have not increased by only 1%-3%
Posted on 2/28/21 at 5:49 pm to Jake88
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Education didn't increase because of the dollar losing value, right? It is because the govt will loan money to a bunch of window lickers who have no business being in college. The schools see this and raise tuition accordingly. Same with real estate and mortgage lending, every dipshit gets a loan. They aren't increasing for the same reasons as a loaf of bread.
I think you are mostly correct here, but these sectors do serve as an example for why you can’t just say the value of the dollar is universally decreasing at 1-3% because that’s what CPI says it is and some of their increases can be traced back to a decrease in scarcity of the USD.
This post was edited on 2/28/21 at 6:03 pm
Posted on 2/28/21 at 5:50 pm to obdobd918
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Trump was in the process of growing the country out of debt
lulz, trump was an unfit clown - not that Biden is competent, but pretending like trump was competent doesn't help anything
Posted on 2/28/21 at 5:52 pm to Vastmind
got gold and some silver
both are legal tender in Missouri and other midlands,midsouth states
you poors in Deep South will be fricked, especially living in blue states
both are legal tender in Missouri and other midlands,midsouth states
you poors in Deep South will be fricked, especially living in blue states
Posted on 2/28/21 at 5:52 pm to Tarps99
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And the inflation gets so bad that a person’s income is now 100k a month
Yet, groceries and gasoline will triple, quadruple in price. Plus, if people stop buying property because of interest rates, your house will become worthless.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 5:53 pm to Jyrdis
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Where has the terrible inflation been over the last 12 years?
The stock market.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 5:54 pm to stlslick
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you poors in Deep South will be fricked, especially living in blue states
What state in the deep south is blue? I'll give you Georgia right now, but still think that's an anomaly.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 6:02 pm to Sneaky__Sally
quote:How was he not competent? Too much quiet in the Middle East? Too many people employed? Wages actually rising?
but pretending like trump was competent doesn't help anything
Posted on 2/28/21 at 6:05 pm to obdobd918
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Trump was in the process of growing the country out of debt
With $1T budget deficits and 2.5% GDP growth while begging the Fed for rate cuts.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 6:06 pm to Vastmind
Because hyperinflation is unlikely at the moment, despite the increase in monetary supply, especially if this stimulus plays out the same way as the last stimulus. If anything, it looks like the US and other advanced economies will have to respond to the issues that caused Japan's Lost Decade, where the collapse of real estate and stock market bubbles caused a long, slow decline of Japan's economy. Despite QE employed by the central bank, you still saw deflationary pressures, which combined with low growth, produced because consumers refused to spend their money, corporations were reluctant to invest and banks sat on their cash. Recently I read a paper on QE in Japan that showed good long-term outcomes though.
There are some significant deflationary pressures in the US too, namely, the insane demographic issues that no one seems to care about, with plummeting birth rates among every ethnicity and every age-specific bracket. The one thing that helps the US is that the demand for dollars is extremely high. It is difficult to imagine a world where the demand for dollars isn't high, because most of the rest of the world has their own economic and demographic issues with which to contend.
There are some significant deflationary pressures in the US too, namely, the insane demographic issues that no one seems to care about, with plummeting birth rates among every ethnicity and every age-specific bracket. The one thing that helps the US is that the demand for dollars is extremely high. It is difficult to imagine a world where the demand for dollars isn't high, because most of the rest of the world has their own economic and demographic issues with which to contend.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 6:08 pm to crazy4lsu
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If anything, it looks like the US and other advanced economies will have to respond to the issues that caused Japan's Lost Decade, where the collapse of real estate and stock market bubbles caused a long, slow decline of Japan's economy
There difference being that our issues were created by government fiat.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 6:09 pm to Vastmind
Mostly drinking and figuring out which neighbors are soft targets. 
Posted on 2/28/21 at 6:09 pm to Vastmind
The whole whole is in the same boat.
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