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re: How are fire investigators able to determine the cause of a fire?

Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by High C
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:17 pm to
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When my parents house had a house fire


As opposed to their house having a car fire?













couldn't help myself
Posted by Ricardo
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:18 pm to
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Posted by Spankum
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:19 pm to
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When my parents house had a house fire that left them homeless on New Year's Day 2008....


wow, your folks lost a house in 2008 to a fire and then again several years later to flood?...sounds like they have been through the ringer over the past few years...
This post was edited on 12/17/16 at 2:33 pm
Posted by High C
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:22 pm to
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Sick burn, brah.


I'm on fiya
Posted by Twenty 49
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:23 pm to
A lot is science.

But police and fire investigators often purport to be experts on it, yet rely on old wives tales and debunked junk science. Read the articles about the Cameron Todd Willingham, who was executed in Texas based on testimony like that. Legit experts say much of their testimony was pure shite. LINK

I know of one case where a house burned down, and the investigators said it was so totally incinerated that they had nothing to test or patterns to observe that would give them any clue of the cause or even place of origin.
Posted by TigahJay
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:23 pm to
If you split the insurance money with me I'll tell you
Posted by 31TIGERS
Mike’s habitat
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:26 pm to
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Someone didn't put the seat down and you want to burn their house down?

You have issues, mon frère.


quote:

soccerfut


You, sir, just got me fussed at. I LOL'd VERY loudly at your post and it scared the crap out of my wife (she's driving) which made me LOL even more. She's pissed because I'm still laughing.

This post was edited on 12/17/16 at 2:27 pm
Posted by S
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:26 pm to
You and tigerlee finna unleash some fury?
Posted by LSUwag
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:32 pm to
It's combination of crime scene investigation and forensics. They docgemical analysis to determine if accelerants were involved.
Posted by Spankum
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

I know of one case where a house burned down, and the investigators said it was so totally incinerated that they had nothing to test or patterns to observe that would give them any clue of the cause or even place of origin.


that does happen, but is pretty rare....there is almost always a good bit of stuff left unburned to examine.
Posted by lsunurse
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:40 pm to
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wow, your folks lost a house in 2008 to a fire and then again several years later to flood?...sounds like they have been through the ringer over the past few years...


Yep, it really sucks. They had used the small amount of insurance money they got to buy a brand new mobile home to live in....that the flood took from them. I think it's why my father is currently having a REALLY hard time right now adjusting. I'm still having to daily talk to him over the phone to reassure him that things will be ok. Even now that he is here in AZ...he still just feels like nothing will ever get better.

We lost a ton of photos in the fire. I only had a handful of childhood pics left after the fire. But they didn't lose all of them. However....what the fire didn't take away...the flood did. So now pretty much all family photos are gone now that I know of. I did upload several of my childhood photos on my computer years ago so I still have those. But my parents wedding album...that was one soggy mess. Flood had wiped every single picture clean
Posted by lsunurse
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:44 pm to
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As opposed to their house having a car fire?


point taken
Posted by lsunurse
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:47 pm to
I hope whoever is downvoting my posts in this thread never has to deal with themselves or their family going through something as devastating as losing their home to a fire or flood.


This post was edited on 12/17/16 at 3:37 pm
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:52 pm to
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I hope whoever is downvoting my posts in this thread never has to deal with their themselves or their family going through something as devastating as losing their home to a fire or flood.

its not me, but I do think sometimes people downvote bad news as a show of empathy/sympathy. Becuase upvoting bad or sad news seems like a dick move
Posted by UF
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:55 pm to
Good point Owlie

I usually don't give a crap about the downvotes but guess am just a little more sensitive than usual right now.
Posted by Spankum
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:59 pm to
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I think it's why my father is currently having a REALLY hard time right now adjusting. I'm still having to daily talk to him over the phone to reassure him that things will be ok. Even now that he is here in AZ...he still just feels like nothing will ever get better.


hate to hear that, but it is really not a surprise...people have a lot of trouble dealing with that kind of tragedy as they get older. glad you are there to help him get through it.
Posted by lsunurse
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 3:00 pm to
Thank you

Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 3:00 pm to
They can find where the fire started. They have dogs that can smell for gas, alcohol and such. If it's a fire started by electricity, an appliance or leaking gas it's harder to tell if it's intentional or not.

Though people not keeping dryer vents clean is one of the number one causes of house fires. I have seen many a drier where I showed people how lucky they were that the fire in their dryer was contained rather than spreading to the house. Dozens of people over the years had no idea they had a fire until I show them all the black lint and the burn pattern.

Gas or electric it doesn't matter.

This post was edited on 12/17/16 at 3:02 pm
Posted by PhilemonThomas
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 3:17 pm to
I've observed a BR Fire Investigator at work in a home. It's amazing what they can figure out pretty quickly during their first walk through.

If a fire starts in more than one spot, it's arson.
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