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re: Hospital nurse arrested after refusing illegal blood draw order

Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:37 am to
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
7598 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 11:37 am to
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that's where BLM fools fricked up. there are genuine grievances with the policing of our communities, and abuse of power, that most people could come together on, but when you make it about race, and us against them, one side will naturally get defensive.


I agree but I think BLM was never really about police injustice and was really just a way to drive black voters to the polls for the presidential election. You sure don't hear about them in the news much anymore now that the election is over.
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:00 pm to
frick you and all apologists for shite cops. I hope those 2 dog turds get jail time.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 12:15 pm
Posted by Spasweezy
Unfortunately, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
7193 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:01 pm to
Usually I side with LEO's decisions, because they're correct more often than not. This guy, however, is a giant piece of shite and needs to be fired. Also, this girl should rightly sue the department. Good for the nurse to sticking to policy. If the patient was indeed suspected of being intoxicated, a warrant should not have been too difficult to obtain.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 12:03 pm
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:05 pm to
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Those are called authoritarian states.


You and the other eggheads can call it whatever you want after you do as you're told. Cop tells you to do something then you have the right to do that and only that.
Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
6344 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:06 pm to
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You and the other eggheads can call it whatever you want after you do as you're told. Cop tells you to do something then you have the right to do that and only that.


Posted by Wolfmanjack
Member since Jun 2017
1205 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:14 pm to
Frick these po-pos, I would like to see them get arrested and slapped around in front of their peers. I hope they hang him by his nuts. Nothing I hate more than an abuse of power.
Posted by StealthCalais11
Lurker since 2007
Member since Aug 2011
12533 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:27 pm to
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LucasP


I'm not sure if you're a god awful troll or genius
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60766 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:35 pm to
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was hit by a drunk driver and when they took her to the hospital (she fought them) the officer told me they can collect a blood sample without her consent once she's admitted.
I am surprised they didnt just scoop up some blood from all the puddles around her once the shooting stopped.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60766 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:36 pm to
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I'm not sure if you're a god awful troll or genius

He has his moments.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
14060 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:45 pm to
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I see money in her future

Posted by RustyTiger
Daytona Beach, FL
Member since Jul 2005
958 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 12:54 pm to
If blood from this patient was so very important why did the police not return to the hospital and ask another nurse to draw the blood? They really just wanted to jerk this poor nurse around. Why did they not get a digital warrant? She might have lost her job if she violated hospital policy. I hope she takes them to court!
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 1:00 pm
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
45049 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 1:00 pm to
They didn't return with a warrant bc they couldn't obtain one. The important piece is that the man they wanted to obtain blood from was a victim and was in the hospital bc he was hit by a suspect fleeing from the police in a high speed chase.

The victim is also a reserved police office in another county and was driving semis as a side job.

Police chase suspect at high speeds. Suspect swerves into victim, causes major explosion (dies on scene). Victim transferred to hospital with severe burns where he's unconscious and medicated for pain.


Knowing the entire store makes things much more clear.
Posted by Nynna11
Member since Jul 2012
574 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 1:26 pm to
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Wouldn't the unconscious person having been involved in a collision that left another dead be cause? I would hope so, since it could be many hours before the patient is conscious and if there is a drug or alcohol level in his system, it would be much diminished after many hours. Something is wrong here.


The unconscious victim did not cause the accident, the police chase caused the suspect to (fatally for him) crash into the patient. The police are trying to cover themselves. And no, as a former ER RN, I can tell you that the pt must either be under arrest or there must be a warrant. Cop was a power hungry a-hole who over reacted because her professional response embarrassed him.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 1:28 pm
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 1:36 pm to
LucasP doing WORK in this thread.
Posted by Disgeaux Bob
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2016
2833 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 1:36 pm to
What a total a-hole !!! He finna to get fired and she finna to get paid.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
15161 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 1:45 pm to
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The police are trying to cover themselves.

Several people in this thread are singling out the cop in the video, but ignoring the entire story. He was either ordered to assist in the cover up, or the culture of corruption and cover up is so prevalent in that department that he thought he could get away with it.
Posted by Scooby
Member since Aug 2006
1940 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 1:47 pm to
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All they had to do was call the lab and ask them to add on a BAC to the blood they already had


I don't think it's admissible in court if obtained that way. You have to use everything provided in the kit supplied by the officer.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 2:06 pm to
And the sad thing is that this cop will be allowed to stay on the force even if it's just a desk job.

We will never see real criminal justice reform until we fix the problem of bad cops being impossible to fire and that includes getting rid of qualified immunity and the police bill of rights.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32993 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 2:08 pm to
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We will never see real criminal justice reform until we fix the problem of bad cops being impossible to fire and that includes getting rid of qualified immunity and the police bill of rights.


fricking police unions....
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6128 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 2:21 pm to
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It's a 42:1983 violation. You lose your "qualified immunity" when you violate someone's civil rights. At that point officer Dumbass becomes personally liable.


I wish he were personally liable. What will happen is she'll sue, as she should, and get a big check which is paid by the taxpayers while this piece of crap cop and his piece of crap lieutenant get a stern talking too and nothing else.

Until they start making cops carry insurance to pay for misconduct claims or threaten to take their pension if they are found guilty of misconduct this crap will keep on happening.
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