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Posted on 7/26/24 at 3:52 pm to
Posted by Trapped in time
Member since Mar 2023
590 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 3:52 pm to
I lived in a trailer surrounded by crack heads for years to save $ for a house. Bought a dilapidated house and fixed it up. Unless you have wealthy parents nobody will hand you shite, you have to sacrifice.
Posted by TigerBaitOohHaHa
Member since Jan 2023
2044 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 5:59 pm to
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It's the first generation where it's the norm to have a $200+ a month cell phone bill and $100+ a month high speed internet + streaming services (Netflix, Prime, Hulu, etc.)



For sure! Things we count as a necessity now are very expensive. I'm not sure its gonna ever get better either.
Posted by TigerBaitOohHaHa
Member since Jan 2023
2044 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 6:04 pm to
few people's first homes are their dream homes. Buy the shittiest house in the nicest neighborhood you can. Hang on to it, DIY as much as you can. Build up equity and climb the latter. Sitting out while home prices are rising is a bad strategy. You gotta make the jump and hold on. You won't be as house poor as you think.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61719 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 6:09 pm to
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I lived in a trailer surrounded by crack heads for years to save $


Sounds like the American dream.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
80625 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 6:37 pm to
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But, isn't it kind of obvious that millennials are the first generation where women have fully integrated the workforce.


Far from it.

And inflation adjusted housing prices are at an all time high.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9402 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 6:56 pm to
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But small towns/rural areas don’t have my precious hipster breweries and coffee shops?!


Well, yeah, because those businesses are usually in places with jobs.
Posted by latech15
Member since Aug 2015
1291 posts
Posted on 7/26/24 at 7:42 pm to
I’m buying all my kids their first house. Putting them through college with decently new cars, buying gas and food for those 4 years, and zero student loan debt upon graduation. If they can’t make it with that, then they just won’t make it.

Posted by latech15
Member since Aug 2015
1291 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:49 am to
Please explain the downvote. Do you think this is bad to do for your children, or are you just mad that you can’t afford to do the same for your kids?
Posted by PelicanState87
Member since May 2024
380 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 3:28 pm to
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Fiance makes around 135, and I make around 135, and a 380k loan still hurts, I couldn't imagine trying to do that on a combined 120k.


Today, home buying is for the privilege and wealthy in any popular metro area. New Orleans, Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, Nashville, Austin, NYC, LA, Denver, etc.

Home buying is still more attainable in rural towns and medium size cities which include BR. But even in BR, you gotta spend at least 260K for a pleasant living area with low crime and amenities which is out of reach for most people who live there. Luckily BR has magnet schools so you don't have to buy in a certain neighborhood to have access to BRMHS and LMHS
Posted by MadQfrog
Rural VA
Member since May 2021
870 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 5:06 pm to
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There's a guy on youtube that has done the math on this - the American Dream is just a fantasy for these younger generations. They are overburdened with debt, prices high, interest rates high - it's just not possible for them. We have to see a mechanism forcing more houses onto the market for sale.


Millennials are too busy being woke and lazy working shitty art and barista jobs. It’s easy to buy a home if you focus and have patience. Not everyone deserves a home.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
3755 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 6:46 am to
Please explain the downvote. Do you think this is bad to do for your children, or are you just mad that you can’t afford to do the same for your kids?
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Happy that you can help your kids, but this is doing too much for them. At least for most people. I am set financially but would not/did not go this far with my kids. I offered to pay for college for each, but buying them a house is enabling them to be stupid with their own money.
Let them earn it. I value my lean years and the lessons it taught me. I can afford anything I want now, but only because I developed an investing mindset early on, along with a spend less than you make discipline. I "retired" at 55, and just turned 60, and have 5 kids ( young adults). I focus on teaching them how vs doing it for them. I have set each up with an investment account with starter money in it. Doing the same for my grandkids.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
14579 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 6:56 am to
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Do you think this is bad to do for your children, or are you just mad that you can’t afford to do the same for your kids?

The first part. I think it’s bad to buy a house for your children.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20853 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 7:17 am to
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Live in the home 5 years, and do it all over again.


Sounds like a stable life to raise kids. Wish I had thought about that strategy a few decades ago!
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20853 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 7:19 am to
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buying them a house is enabling them to be stupid with their own money.


How so?

Plenty of wealthy families teach financial and social responsibility to their kids while also providing them the cushion to build their own lives debt free.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97695 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 7:28 am to
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Fiance makes around 135, and I make around 135, and a 380k loan still hurts, I couldn't imagine trying to do that on a combined 120k.



You make 270k combined and a 380k loan hurts?

Wtf
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475943 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 7:36 am to
Some people are fiscally responsible and refuse to be house poor and use the net difference for savings/retirement.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97695 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 7:39 am to
That doesnt make sense

If you take home 14k and struggle with a 3k payment then there is sometbing wrong with you

Dont even start to try and excuse that
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475943 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 7:58 am to
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If you take home 14k and struggle with a 3k payment

I'm sure they could afford it IF they slashed their savings/retirement efforts.

Again, some people value creating savings and retirement more than being house poor (and likely buying an over-inflated asset that's more than they need anyway).
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97695 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 7:59 am to
Ok Dave Ramsey
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 8:00 am to
Younger people and being able to afford a home is not a new thing.

If 1986 my wife and I purchased our first home together in the NOVA suburbs. $187500. Our monthly payment was $1003 and the interest rate was 9.5%. Add on insurance and taxes and we were paying about $1400 a month plus utilities. We mad about $100k (maybe) combined and we were able to afford the house and have a decent lifestyle. Vacations were places like Myrtle Beach where we would share rental on a big house with several other families. Nothing extravagent but we were happy and comfortable.
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