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Posted on 12/10/16 at 1:40 pm to Spankum
Lotta miseducated folks.
Heroin is not the issue.
It's complicated, but boils down to a couple factors:
A) Addiction. It's hereditary and awful
B) Pharma companies: They're profitable and powerful
C) Mexican drug cartels: See B definition
D) American drug policy: Backwards and not for "the people", but for the powerful (lawyers, judges, cops, corporations, etc)
E) The CIA: the real drug warriors.
Heat up those ingridients and shoot them. They're a deadly combo.
Heroin is not the issue.
It's complicated, but boils down to a couple factors:
A) Addiction. It's hereditary and awful
B) Pharma companies: They're profitable and powerful
C) Mexican drug cartels: See B definition
D) American drug policy: Backwards and not for "the people", but for the powerful (lawyers, judges, cops, corporations, etc)
E) The CIA: the real drug warriors.
Heat up those ingridients and shoot them. They're a deadly combo.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 1:44 pm to Dire Wolf
These deaths are less related to heroin overdoses and more related to fentanyl being sold as heroin and people overdosing.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 2:00 pm to SamuelClemens
People died using the stuff I used, but nowhere near at the level we are seeing now. So glad I got out when I did.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 2:10 pm to Dire Wolf
These type threads do a good job of exposing the truly shitty folks.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 2:19 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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find myself at times feeling terrible handing someone a scrip for tramadol when I know their diagnosis is painful. If you broke your ankle in 3 places, you earned some vicodin. If one side of your face is normal and one looks like Shrek? you earned a few Vicodin. NOW... If you come back after running out? Not my problem. Have Motrin. If we are able to look up your prescription history and see you got 20 vicodin 3 days ago? Sorry.
Physicians blaming anyone or anything on their own prescribing habits is complete crap. You are the doctor, you can say yes or no. You can refuse refills. You set the expectations of the patient in terms of pain and how you will treat it. This isn't a fricking McDonald's. Patient doesn't like it? Tough shite, go see a pain management doc...if you can even get in to see em.
I perform elective and non-elective surgery, I treat patient's pain on a case by case basis and use this thing called common fricking sense. I've also operated in Mexico where they got some naproxen after elective orthopedic surgery and when we saw them post-op day 3, they related some pain that was controlled with their meds, ice, and elevation...and then said "thank you." Most of our patients our entitled pricks, you as a physician do not have to enable them. So don't.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 2:52 pm to Spankum
No one is saying heroin isn't dangerous its fricking heroin.
But its not the heroin that is killing people it's the fentanyl in the heroin that is killing people. Not that hard to understand
But its not the heroin that is killing people it's the fentanyl in the heroin that is killing people. Not that hard to understand
Posted on 12/10/16 at 2:54 pm to vengeanceofrain
I have a prescription for xanax, I need it. But when I got it, I went to my doc snd literally said I need some Xanax and he said okay.
Pushers in white jackets. That is whar they are
Pushers in white jackets. That is whar they are
Posted on 12/10/16 at 3:11 pm to vengeanceofrain
Sure the reason for the increase is the fentanyl......but fentanyl-less heroin still attributes to some deaths.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 3:21 pm to Spankum
Heroin is not "safe" but remember it was originally a medicine.
...for kids...
...for kids...
Posted on 12/10/16 at 3:31 pm to Napoleon
It will be interesting to see if some 2nd Degree murder cases are made on Heroin/Fentanyl overdoses since that was the intention of the law (hot heroin doses) when they made it.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 3:36 pm to theenemy
I think that is a very stupid law. I can buy stuff from most stores that can kill me. Enough over the counter pills, liquor hell you can kill yourself with things you may be allergic to.
I think overdose deaths are unfortunate, but the fault of the drug taker not the provider. Though F a heroin dealer.
I just think charging for murder 2 is a damn reactionary law.,
I think overdose deaths are unfortunate, but the fault of the drug taker not the provider. Though F a heroin dealer.
I just think charging for murder 2 is a damn reactionary law.,
Posted on 12/10/16 at 3:39 pm to Napoleon
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I think that is a very stupid law. I can buy stuff from most stores that can kill me. Enough over the counter pills, liquor hell you can kill yourself with things you may be allergic to.
I think overdose deaths are unfortunate, but the fault of the drug taker not the provider. Though F a heroin dealer.
I just think charging for murder 2 is a damn reactionary law.,
I agree and from my understanding they are almost impossible to convict or to even indict, and a waste of time.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 4:27 pm to RealityTiger
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guessing you're alluding to alcoholics.
No man, I'm referring to the one that's impossible to overdose on
Posted on 12/10/16 at 4:29 pm to MasCervezas
That post made me 
Posted on 12/10/16 at 4:33 pm to theenemy
This thread is about the 23% spike in ods. No one said heroin doesnt cause deaths but its not the heroin alone thats responsible for the spike.
Do some of you know how potent fentanyl is? They serve it by the microgram and its still at least 50 times stronger than morphine, the shite they give you when you have unbearable pain. Its the devils drug foreal.
Do some of you know how potent fentanyl is? They serve it by the microgram and its still at least 50 times stronger than morphine, the shite they give you when you have unbearable pain. Its the devils drug foreal.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 4:38 pm to Spankum
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Half of the posts are saying heroin is not that dangerous and the other are talking about folks that they know who are addicted.
It's dangerous, but quite a few of the overdoses we're seeing today are heroin cut with other substances which are more dangerous and powerful.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 4:39 pm to Napoleon
I appreciate what you are saying. My main point is that the 3 heroin addicts I know are just plain rotten people that use people and don't care who they hurt .. none of the 3 were like that before being addicted .. just an awful drug.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 4:45 pm to YipSkiddlyDooo
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You as a physician
Oops. I worded my post poorly. I am an ER nurse. I am the one literally handing the scrip to the patient upon discharge. That's why I wrote it that way. Sorry if I misrepresented myself.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 5:18 pm to Napoleon
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Heroin is not "safe" but remember it was originally a medicine. ...for kids...
One of my ancestors was wounded in the Civil War, and became addicted to whatever opiate they gave him for the rest of his life. They would order it from New Orleans, and it would come up he river on a steamboat. Family lore relates that if the steamboat was late and he ran out, he would have "screaming fits." This problem has been around a long time.
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