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re: Here's why the country is freaking out and under virtual lock down - mathematical reason

Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:39 am to
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:39 am to
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It's your argument and you want us to find the data to make it?
This is my biggest issue with this. From early on, people staked out strongly held opinions about what Covid-19 was with little to know real knowledge or information. For many, it simply becomes an exercise in confirmation bias from that point forward.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86748 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:40 am to
Doing nothing means letting sick people go to work, never showering or cleaning, etc. that’s what you were dealing with in 1918. If we simply treated this as an illness that we don’t want to spread, then we treat it like we always should have been treating them. If you’re sick, stay home, keep your kids at home if they’re sick. Wash your hands often. On and on. That alone keeps this from killing a million people which is insane. Swine killed 12k over a year here before a vaccine was ever available. It was twice as deadly as the flu and it actually started in this country. Come on people.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:40 am to
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What happens when they get out of lockdown? Might the disease spread again?
one would think so
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85116 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:41 am to
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You mean the one that's nominally successful?


50-60% is pretty effective

and even when it does't fully prevent, it reduces symptons

so yeah...that one

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What about the bird flu?


What about it? Outbreaks are very rare.

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Seems the wise thing to do is protect the vulnerable since they're the ones dying from this illness.


Which is exactly what these precautions are meant to do...?

Posted by ElPlatoPrincipal
Member since Jun 2017
130 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:42 am to
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Corana


almost had it
Posted by SaintsandTigers
Member since Feb 2020
461 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:43 am to
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Which is exactly what these precautions are meant to do...?


We are about to cancel a tournament played by 18-22 year olds that makes 100s of millions of dollars in order to potentially help the spread of a virus that appears to only be dangerous for elderly because these young people could get it do to playing in the tournament and later potentially spread it to someone that would be around an older person.


Not logical to me. Just isnt
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:44 am to
Sure, it's concerning, but let's not act like our media has helped limit panic. It's Orange Man Bad, all the time. The media and establishment are absolutely loving this, and just so happens the Saudis tank oil prices at the same time. Good times ahead for this country.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85116 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:46 am to
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Not logical to me. Just isnt


I'm not arguing it makes complete sense to me either

I absolutely believe some of this is an over reaction

but at the end of the day, I'm going to defer to people that know more about this than me
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
46138 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:46 am to
Go the the joe Rogen experience podcast with Micheal osterhelm (second to last episode) he wrote a detailed book on this exact scenario and what we need to do to prepare (completely ignored of course) and his group they modeled this year. They have been 100% on so far, if you want Unbiased expert opinions and facts.

And this is America, been here long? Family here since 1600s and we generally overact right everything, kinda why were are a County.
As Winston Churchill used to say, “The states never react to anything, they overreact to everything.” Lol

Micheal Osterholm the expert that warned us
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 9:49 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282255 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:46 am to
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Which is exactly what these precautions are meant to do...?


Give the elderly some sense of security, false or real.. If you're under sixty, healthy lungs you're going to be fine.

Posted by SaintsandTigers
Member since Feb 2020
461 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:47 am to
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but at the end of the day, I'm going to defer to people that know more about this than me
I used to think that about doctors.

Then my wife became one......
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85116 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:48 am to
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If you're under sixty, healthy lungs you're going to be fine.



We know

I'm not worried about the virus
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282255 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:48 am to
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As Winston Churchill used to say, “The states never react to anything, they overreact to everything.” Lol


This s is primarily our leaders cya.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282255 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:52 am to
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I'm not worried about the virus


Ah the ole "I'm not affected by this" while defending draconian measures.

Sure *wink*

You'll be more affected by the over the top reactions than you will the virus.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
46138 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 9:53 am to
Well played Saints and Tigers, well played indeed!
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
28679 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:03 am to
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This is blatantly false.



then why is that chart from the World Health Organization showing that no one under 80 has died?

I agree, i'm pretty sure i remember hearing there have been a few cases of people under 80 dying.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86748 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:04 am to
No one under the age of 10 has died.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
67923 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:08 am to
Speaking of taking this seriously.... what happened to my Coronavirus Poster Death Pool?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86748 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:09 am to
I wasn’t listed so they assumed it was a troll.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26537 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:09 am to
Clearly this is a big deal, but I think questioning the degree of response is fair when you consider what’s at stake. DJIA is down another 8% this morning. That isn’t a direct reflection of what will happen to GDP, but I think it’s fair to assume that we’re looking at a significant negative impact to the broader economy.

This may sound callous, but I think it’s reasonable to discuss just how restrictive we want to be as a society in response to a virus that most drastically impacts the elderly and already unhealthy. People also die when the global economy collapses, even without a new virus.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 10:49 am
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