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re: Having a sleep study at the sleep clinic tonight. What to expect?

Posted on 7/25/19 at 11:19 pm to
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
13320 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 11:19 pm to
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only people that get sleep study are 300 pound fatsos


I was around 190 when I got mine. I had a mild to moderate case of sleep apnea. Caused mainly by enlarged tonsils and swollen tissue in my palate. They told me going in that they would need a certain amount of hours on the CPAP for testing if they thought I needed it. My breathing issues were not bad enough to warrant it but the ENT did want me to go back for a second study with the machine on me all night. That was the worst night of sleep I remember. Couldn’t get used to the machine and every time my mouth opened air would be forced out and wake me up. I ended up opting for the UPPP surgery. Combined with tonsillectomy. Recovery was brutal for about 5 days. I lose 15 lbs in a week and that’s without being able to shite because the narcotics clogged me up. But two weeks later when all the stitches finally fell out I was mostly back to normal. The snoring is pretty much gone. Oh, the place I had the study done had WiFi and the password was something like MyWiFiSaysIsnore.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44785 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 11:36 pm to
Was 165 when I got mine, and should have been on it when I was 150. Just the way my neck is
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 11:57 pm to
no play by play?
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9613 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 1:44 am to
been using Cpap for 7 years now and really cannot sleep without it. the 1200 dollar sleep test is a rip. using a Cpap service provider is a rip. with only a doctor prescription you can buy one direct from Cpap.com for 400 dollars and I get about 4 years of service out of one. the insurance deductibles for the test and a single year of service provided will cost you several times the direct purchase. the service providers will tell you only a certified tech can adjust the set pressure. the directions are in the box. set pressure as high as is comfortable without blowing past the seals
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 5:28 am to
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no play by play?

Just woke me up to take the myriad of wires off.
Terrible night of sleep. Probably not all the blame on the wires,etc. Some blame to just being in an unfamiliar place.
Had to alert the nurse just so I could go take a piss about an hour or so ago.
Thankfully,no morning wood to contend with.
Awaiting doctor's analysis.
Posted by LSUMANINVA
West Virginia
Member since Sep 2004
9153 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 6:12 am to
Still alive?
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 6:22 am to
Yes. They didn't come in during the middle of the night to save me with a CPAP, so I must not have a terrible case of apnea. However, I have to come back for a second night and wear the CPAP.
I didn't sleep well last night at all.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
21142 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 6:52 am to
I have a cpap because my wife was tired of me snoring. I generally tossed and turned a bunch and thought it was normal.

I don’t have the apneotic episodes (full obstruction) but I have the hypoapnea episodes (pariah obstruction). So basically I have a mild case.

Now that I have the machine I am dead to the world and don’t wake up for anything. I’m so rested in the mornings even on 6 hours of sleep. I don’t think I NEED it but I certainly see a difference.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
135811 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:02 am to
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Anything unusual to expect?


Being entirely uncomfortable, yet expected to sleep normally.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
73541 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:10 am to
what's to study?

close eyes, go to sleep.


Posted by just1dawg
Virginia
Member since Dec 2011
1494 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:35 am to
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Wife does not like the CPAP cause it makes noise; especially when you go into deep sleep.

How loud is it? Wouldn't she rather hear the CPAP than you snoring?

I can't hear mine if I have a fan on in the room because it's pretty quiet (it also helps if it's not sitting on a nightstand right at ear level). But mine almost always runs at the minimum pressure setting, which is 4 cm. I have the ResMed Airsense 10 Autoset.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14186 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:53 am to
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WTF? How overweight and out of shape do you have to be to have a HR of 100 while you sleep.

If your HR is 100 while you sleep you have serious health concerns that will not be fixed by a CPAP.



A lot of dumb comments coming from people who know very little of what they speak about.

A person with untreated sleep apnea experiences multiple stoppages of breathing. When this happens, the heart rate drops, as does their blood O2. When their brain comes out of deep stage, or REM sleep, they start breathing again. The body's response is to increase oxygenated blood flow, hence a dramatic INCREASE in heart rate.

A person's heart rate can drop to, say 60, then immediately shoot up to double or more. This happens over and over throughout the night. Sometimes, over 100 times AN HOUR! Why do you think a lot of people have heart attacks while sleeping?

The other misconception is only fat people have sleep apnea. Anatomy and structure of the throat/neck can cause sleep apnea in someone that is extremely physically fit. I know a doctor who runs, and has run the Boston Marathon. He's been on CPAP for years.

A person with untreated sleep apnea also gets to enjoy a low metabolism rate. They are told to lose weight, but find it extremely difficult due to the low metabolism and severe lack of energy.


Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14186 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 8:12 am to
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been using Cpap for 7 years now and really cannot sleep without it. the 1200 dollar sleep test is a rip. using a Cpap service provider is a rip. with only a doctor prescription you can buy one direct from Cpap.com for 400 dollars and I get about 4 years of service out of one. the insurance deductibles for the test and a single year of service provided will cost you several times the direct purchase. the service providers will tell you only a certified tech can adjust the set pressure. the directions are in the box. set pressure as high as is comfortable without blowing past the seals



Some truth to this post. Sleep studies are almost completely avoidable in most cases. But, the healthcare lobby really pushes the insurance companies to require them, in order to cover the needed CPAP equipment.

Auto-titrating CPAPs can be used on a vast majority of people with sleep apnea. IMO, the only need for a lab-based sleep test is for complex sleep apnea.

Put an auto out on a person suspected of having sleep apnea. Download the data after a week or so. If symptoms improve and the data supports this, then all is good. If not, then send them for a complete sleep study. Quite possible that person my have central sleep apnea, which CPAP is ineffective at treating.

Side note, a few years ago, the normal procedure for diagnosing sleep apnea was a 2 night sleep study. Insurance finally wised up, and started requiring a split-night study. Cut the cost in half, much to the outcry of the sleep labs. There has been no discernible difference in treatment or outcome since them, despite the protest of the sleep labs. They have been fighting home sleep testing for as long as I can remember, also. Gotta protect that cash cow.

Your last sentence is not only wrong, but very dangerous. If you set your pressure too high, most likely you will develop Central Sleep Apnea while on CPAP. Set it too low, and CPAP will be ineffective. Please do not follow this very stupid advice you have just given.
Posted by mudcat tiger
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
296 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 8:31 am to
You are correct sir. Not fun getting used to wearing one but when you do, you will instantly feel better. Been wearing one for 15 yrs.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8454 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 8:59 am to
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f your HR is 100 while you sleep you have serious health concerns that will not be fixed by a CPAP.



I wasn't "sleeping". At times I would wake up in the middle of the night gasping for air (and still do if I take a Sunday nap on the couch). I was so exhausted during the day that I would doze off at red-lights. No BS, my sleep study revealed that, at times, I wouldn't breath for over a minute so my heart was working it's arse off to keep the residual O2 flowing. The CPAP fixed it.

You are correct about health concerns. Pulm Doc said that without CPAP, I'm a stroke waiting to happen. I believe that the years without the CPAP accelerated the heart disease that runs genetically in the family (100% LIDO blockage at 46). I was somewhat serious about the battery-pack CPAP strapped to my chest. I few years after the CPAP, day timeexhaustion set back in and I couldn't catch my breath after minimal exercise. A few months later, after a check-up, I get the dreaded, "you need to drive over to the infirmary and get a room. I'll see you at 5:30 AM".

I have a co-worker that refuses to get checked. He's 50, not a fatty, works on his tools, but is exhausted. I told him he is a dead-man walking.
This post was edited on 7/26/19 at 9:06 am
Posted by oldcharlie8
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
7809 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 9:00 am to
i had my doc ship my testing machine to my house. two days later, got my cpap. can't sleep without it.

Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 9:03 am to
You seem quite knowledgeable about this.
My brief stats this morning were an average of 24 stoppages of breathing per hour, many from 30-60 seconds long.
I'm not overweight, I run regularly, including marathons. Not gonna say I'm a 10/10 on fitness scale, but I'm above average, therefore it's genetics the problem.
Posted by phelps4824
franklinton, la
Member since Sep 2008
931 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 9:04 am to
Yes. They didn't come in during the middle of the night to save me with a CPAP, so I must not have a terrible case of apnea. However, I have to come back for a second night and wear the CPAP.
I didn't sleep well last night at all.


Just because they didn't come in and put the cpap on you doesn't mean that you didn't have apnea. It depends on how the dr ordered the test it was probably a 2 night study so they monitor you the first night and spend the second night doing the titration.
Posted by Bacchus
Tulsa
Member since Feb 2009
286 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 9:28 am to
I had my test done a few years ago after pretty much knowing my whole life I had sleep apnea. They woke me up in the middle of the night to put the CPAP on, and I just couldn't get used to it. In fact, I had a panic attack about it forcing air into my lungs and asked to leave. Turns out if you leave in the middle of the study, then insurance won't pay for it. So, I had to stay there the rest of the night, without the CPAP on, and just try to calm myself to sleep. I tried again to get a CPAP, and while at the doctor's office, the nurse told me that they monitor how much you use it, and then insurance won't cover the cost of the machine if it just sits at my house. Not being very confident that I'd use it and not wanting to spend whatever it cost (I think it was like $1k), I decided to just not even take it home.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9613 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 9:51 am to
your scare the Cpap out of persons needing a machine setting is very inappropriate. google Cpap pressure to high and you get 466000 responses describing the issues. most important issue is fit for comfort and leakage. a quote high pressure setting requires the use of a face mask designed for high pressure which is not common . if a newbie user is still uncertain, the auto titrate Cpap machines very common,,, will fit the bill quite nicely just a few more dollars. relying on a service provider to set pressure is not helpful when traveling as elevation changes automatically increase set pressure.

its not uncommon to see experienced drivers fall asleep in the middle of the day and cross the median for a head on crash. before Cpap I too woke up a couple times in the grass at 70 miles per hour. Cpap is a simple system, and folks need to be encouraged to use ,,,scaring the Cpap out of them is unfortunate
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