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re: Have you personally dealt with the “wokeness”?

Posted on 2/14/23 at 3:24 pm to
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19232 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 3:24 pm to
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I had worked for about 8 months on positioning my team and rebidding the job and attending every prebid and walkthrough meeting and it was pulled from me for no reason other than my skin color. The person they ended up going with was a higher price than me and caused multiple setbacks.

I can't tell you how many times our outift did a project with a minority workshare, only to inherit (and get a T&M blank check to finish) the work they were unable to complete due to incompetence. Over and over.
Posted by Beauw
Blanchard
Member since Sep 2007
3480 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 3:44 pm to
If and when they come crawling back to you, charge them more.
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
Member since Nov 2015
4466 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 4:16 pm to
Nonsensical and invidious DEI initiatives are pervasive in the legal industry. I'll offer one anecdote. A largely white and male litigation team was retained to represent a large corporation in a $100 million commercial lawsuit. The general counsel of the client is black. By the general counsel's own admission, the outside litigation counsel was performing admirably. Nonetheless, days after winning a major motion, the litigation team was replaced by a group of the general counsel's black friends at another firm, despite the fact that the new attorneys had less relevant experience and virtually no connection to the court where the action was pending. The only justification offered by the general counsel was that he felt compelled to compensate for "hundreds of years" of alleged discrimination. To be clear, one set of lawyers was displaced by another solely and explicitly on the basis of race. From my point of view, this is an affront to meritocracy and an indefensible, gross injustice. Opportunity and reward should be allocated on the basis of individual talent and merit, not inclusion in a particular demographic group, not based on a misguided and often vindictive desire to remedy non-specific historical discrimination. This should be indisputable and self-evident, but unfortunately it is not. Just as it is a grotesque injustice when a black person is denied an opportunity because of the color of his skin, it is an equal injustice when a white or Asian or Hispanic person is denied an opportunity on that grounds. Individuals should be judged as just that, not as emblems of a history they barely have any connection to. Proponents of collectivist "anti-racist" dogmas are ignorant and destructive people.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62850 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 4:34 pm to
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The bigger test arguably is when this country becomes predominantly POC 20 years from now.


Whites will try to inherit the minority victim mentality. POC will demand to retain it. It's going to be a shite show.
Posted by PlaySomeHonk
Montegut La and Liberty MS
Member since Jan 2023
331 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:03 am to
Wisdom tells me that politics and religion should be discussed before the first date; if you’re not aligned there, especially on religion, there’s no need for a first date. You’re just wasting precious time.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15426 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:04 am to
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Whites will try to inherit the minority victim mentality.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259875 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:06 am to
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It had nothing to do with any sort of division.


bullshite. No one gives a damn about its origin, its used today as a weapon wielded to divide.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22206 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:20 am to
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My installation team was at a project and was discussing shared military experience with one of the individuals that was walking around with them. Now, the gentleman is about 58 or so and the customer is probably late 20s. My installer was talking about how the military has gone woke and apparently this girl was extremely offended by that. Someone else from the same customer called me and said they could not do business with us anymore as we had extremely offended that girl. We are in shock that someone has such gentle feelings that a conversation about how the military has gone woke (aka soft) has turned into this.


If a 28 year old vet showed up to provide services to your company and spent time telling a late 50s vet (80s era) how the military used to be filled with weak men who never had to fight a real war, would that late 50s vet be offended?
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 7:24 am
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