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re: Have any friends that decided to "home school" their kids?
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:06 am to mooseofterror
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:06 am to mooseofterror
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Christian Extremist types
Pretty much consensus in this thread that the religious extremist home school parents aren't the successful ones.
That can be "lagniappe" to teach the religious views you want, but it shouldn't be the motivation for home schooling. The motivation should be giving your kids the best possible education you can and still allowing them to be socialized and comfortable working with others.
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Putting a bubble around them, for any reason, is detrimental and will limit their ability to be successful later in life. Hardcore religion seems to be a common reason for that bubble and that goes for several religions.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 9:08 am
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Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:10 am to BRgetthenet
The resources of the Internet, the creation of co-op groups, and the number of colleges offering dual enrollment opportunities has made home school different than it was, say 25 years ago.
I know three families that homeschool:
One had a 16 year old girl accepted to college.
One went to college at 15, graduated at 19 and was accepted to Juilliard.
One has four well rounded kids. All of them are active athletically, all of them either play violin or dance, and all of them are smart.
Common denominator: The parent at home organizing the home schooling is college educated (a Ph.D. in two instances).
I know three families that homeschool:
One had a 16 year old girl accepted to college.
One went to college at 15, graduated at 19 and was accepted to Juilliard.
One has four well rounded kids. All of them are active athletically, all of them either play violin or dance, and all of them are smart.
Common denominator: The parent at home organizing the home schooling is college educated (a Ph.D. in two instances).
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 9:12 am
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:10 am to Pettifogger
That a faith based school probably "sucks"
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:14 am to anc
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One had a 16 year old girl accepted to college.
One went to college at 15
This needs to stop being a metric that people brag about. Home school teachers/parents can choose the curriculum and how fast they go through it. I'm sure plenty of kids in regular high schools could "go to college early", but they haven't gotten through all of the proper curriculum in their school to be eligible.
Why is it a good thing to go to college that early? College is not just about classroom education. You learn to be on your own, make friends from strangers, support yourself, go out and socialize. 15/16 year olds wouldn't fit in with other freshmen.
I sure as shite wasn't ready for college at 15 physically. I looked like I was 12. That was before I could even drive.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:16 am to TheCaterpillar
Mentally I could've handled the same school workload at 15 as I did at 18, but I would not have enjoyed college. I learned just as much outside the classroom in college as I did in it. You learn to be an adult. You think 15/16 year olds are ready for college? I don't.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:22 am to TheCaterpillar
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You think 15/16 year olds are ready for college? I don't
I think some 15/16 year olds are ready for the learning side of college, but not the experience that college has become.
I recently read this book, as my firstborn was navigating the college admission waters. It is very enlightening.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:23 am to TheCaterpillar
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This needs to stop being a metric that people brag about. Home school teachers/parents can choose the curriculum and how fast they go through it.
I agree with this statement. I think most of the time people are posting this because others are stating that "every kid" they know that is homeschooled is stupid or not well adjusted socially. So there are examples out there of kids that are and are advanced just like the examples of kids that are behind or not well adjusted. Most parents would not want their kids to enter college that young. I know I wouldn't despite where they were with their curriculum.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 9:24 am
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:26 am to statman34
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Most parents would not want their kids to enter college that young. I know I wouldn't despite where they were with their curriculum.
Why not? It is because of the academic rigor of college or the social scene at college? There are thousands of colleges that aren't party schools.
Full disclaimer: I graduated college before I could legally drink. I went to an SEC undergraduate school before going to grad school at LSU. I was not homeschooled, however, nor do we homeschool our children.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 9:28 am
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:27 am to anc
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I think some 15/16 year olds are ready for the CLASSROOM learning side of college,
FIFY and I agree.
The other learning, that goes on outside the classroom, they are not mature enough physically or mentally to handle 99% of the time at 15/16.
Can you even put bills in your name at 15? Definitely can't go to bars with friends (which you wouldn't have because they'd all be much older). Can't even drive.
There is a ton of physical and mental maturation that happens junior and senior year of high school that has nothing to do with classroom ability.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:29 am to anc
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There are thousands of colleges that aren't party schools.
Kids still "go out" at these schools. They still hook up with girls. They still experiment a lot with different things.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:30 am to BRgetthenet
Some are definitely social oddballs, but I know several who turned out just fine.
My issue with homeschooling is that about 80% of the time it's code for "I don't want my kid exposed to the evils of public school social life, science education and liberal indoctrination".
My issue with homeschooling is that about 80% of the time it's code for "I don't want my kid exposed to the evils of public school social life, science education and liberal indoctrination".
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:31 am to anc
I have mostly girls and I don't think I want them on a college campus that early. I think academically, hopefully they would be ready, but not for the other aspects.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:32 am to TheCaterpillar
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Kids still "go out" at these schools. They still hook up with girls. They still experiment a lot with different things.
So do 16/17 year olds in high school.
I tend to think there are 15 year olds that are more mature than some 20 year olds when it comes to things. My daughter was one of them. I don't trust my 13 year old son to leave the house at this point though.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:38 am to BigEdLSU
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That a faith based school probably "sucks"
My point is that a faith based school that doesn't emphasize academics probably sucks.
Plenty of great private schools are faith based. But from my hometown, especially through church, I knew of a lot of kids who went to schools where 90% of the focus was on being a Christian school, and 10% of the focus was being on a school. Those kids ended up going to bad Christian colleges that have a similar mindset.
You can usually gauge a lot by just looking at information about the school online. I did this recently for an extended family member sending his kids to some school I'd never heard of. Where most good private schools would list matriculation details, this school continually trumpeted that it would provide Christian education, and listed college attendance only briefly, almost as an afterthought. I'm pretty confident that school is terrible.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:40 am to anc
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So do 16/17 year olds in high school.
And you go home to mommy and daddy. There aren't parental monitors in college. And 17 can be a high school senior, I was stating 15/16 age group.
I think its definitely a case by case thing, but I did not know anyone who was 15 when I was that was ready for college.
ETA:
I didn't have a hair on my chinny chin chin at that age
shite, I don't think I had a happy trail.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 9:42 am
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:40 am to TheCaterpillar
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Mentally I could've handled the same school workload at 15 as I did at 18, but I would not have enjoyed college. I learned just as much outside the classroom in college as I did in it. You learn to be an adult. You think 15/16 year olds are ready for college? I don't.
Plus, I know of several situations like that where the colleges are either mediocre private schools or nearby/directional public schools. Great, so you take classes at 16 from Kennesaw State, which means you're even further out of touch from your contemporaries while also getting a head start on a meh education
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:42 am to Roger Klarvin
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My issue with homeschooling is that about 80% of the time it's code for "I don't want my kid exposed to the evils of public school social life, science education and liberal indoctrination".
Which is fine to be cautious about IMO. But usually the folks spouting this stuff are regurgitating talk radio or facebook posts.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:43 am to Roger Klarvin
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Some are definitely social oddballs, but I know several who turned out just fine.
We have a family in town that home schools their kids until 8th grade. They send them to the Catholic school, so they can go to the Catholic high school. (I don't think mom is competent enough to teach the high school material) Those kids are in shock for at least 6 months. The boy they sent this year cried every day for a month. He couldn't keep up with the pace of school let alone life outside of the home. While home-school has some merits, the social aspect of school is too important to miss out on.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:46 am to CoachChappy
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We have a family in town that home schools their kids until 8th grade. They send them to the Catholic school, so they can go to the Catholic high school. (I don't think mom is competent enough to teach the high school material) Those kids are in shock for at least 6 months. The boy they sent this year cried every day for a month. He couldn't keep up with the pace of school let alone life outside of the home. While home-school has some merits, the social aspect of school is too important to miss out on.
Seems like the parents did it wrong. They didn't socialize them enough and didn't allow other instructors besides Mommy to teach the kids.
Again, I wouldn't homeschool my kids, but I think there is a "proper" way to do it that leads to normal, well educated, and well adjusted kids.
I just think that a lot of parents who do it, do it for the wrong reasons and it is detrimental to the child's development.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:47 am to TheCaterpillar
what % of home schooled kids have a sword collection?
I'm going with 80%
I'm going with 80%
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