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Have an old Mustang, needs freon. Looking for R12 in New Orleans...
Posted on 8/13/19 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 8/13/19 at 12:32 pm
Not looking to handle myself, just a place that will fill up my AC unit with R12. Thanks.
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Posted on 8/13/19 at 1:12 pm to lsugambit
Good luck with that. Only guys I know that still have r12 are commercial and home ac guys. Auto shops did away with that stuff years ago. Starting in 2020 if you have to get a recharge on your older home ac unit with r12 they you will be forced to buy a completely new unit. You can thank the EPA for that.
This post was edited on 8/13/19 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 8/13/19 at 1:20 pm to lsugambit
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just a place that will fill up my AC unit with R12
That's gonna be tough.
Posted on 8/13/19 at 1:25 pm to lsugambit
Just have them vac it out and recharge with r134
Posted on 8/13/19 at 1:27 pm to biohzrd
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Only guys I know that still have r12 are commercial and home ac guys.
Those guys typically will have R-22 not R-12
quote:
rting in 2020 if you have to get a recharge on your older home ac unit with r12 they you will be forced to buy a completely new unit. You can thank the EPA for that.
Again, pretty sure you're thinking of R-22
Posted on 8/13/19 at 1:28 pm to rooster108bm
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Just have them vac it out and recharge with r134
Won't cool nearly as well, though.
Posted on 8/13/19 at 1:32 pm to lsugambit
I have a cylinder of Dupont 12 but I live in Denham Springs. Also have the correct manifold gauge set for it.
Posted on 8/13/19 at 1:36 pm to rooster108bm
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Just have them vac it out and recharge with r134
I thought r134a was the preferred replacement. Also seem to remember that FR-12 was supposed to perform like R-12 (and still EPA compliant) but not sure if they make it anymore.
Posted on 8/13/19 at 1:37 pm to mdomingue
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Won't cool nearly as well, though.
Well unless you know someone who has some black market 20 year old r11 that's his only choice.
Posted on 8/13/19 at 1:38 pm to captainahab
quote:all mineral oil must be evacuated from the system and PAG oil pun in as a replacement. Also a 134A compliant condensor coil must be installed since the coils are a much smaller diameter in a 134A system. We used to put Freeze 12 in as a replacement for R12 but it never really worked as good.
I thought r134a was the preferred replacement.
Posted on 8/13/19 at 1:41 pm to lsugambit
I believe there is a conversion to r134a. Probably a kit you ca buy on Amazon
Posted on 8/13/19 at 1:42 pm to lsugambit
I will buy any R-12 if it’s worth my drive to you. I can go $250 for ever 20 pounds you have.
Posted on 8/13/19 at 1:43 pm to Bedhog
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Also a 134A compliant condensor coil must be installed
This is incorrect. And unless it's a 60s or 70s model the oil will not have to be drained. Pag oil is compatible with almost all oils used from the 80s onward.
Posted on 8/13/19 at 1:46 pm to lsugambit
one thing to be cautioned about, back in the day R12 was very scarce and people were mixing it with propane. Propane cools way more efficiently that freon but if the system develops a leak and is near an ignition source then , well you know what happens. They actually made devices to test the pureness of R12
Posted on 8/13/19 at 1:49 pm to bamagreycoat
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I will buy any R-12 if it’s worth my drive to you. I can go $250 for ever 20 pounds you have.
Posted on 8/13/19 at 1:50 pm to rooster108bm
quote:Ester oil is what I'm referring to but if POE oil was in the system then yes, it's compatible with R12 and 134A
This is incorrect. And unless it's a 60s or 70s model the oil will not have to be drained. Pag oil is compatible with almost all oils used from the 80s onward.
Posted on 8/13/19 at 2:28 pm to Bedhog
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Ester oil is what I'm referring to
Ester is compatable with r12, r134a and can be be mixed with pag. It's also easier on seals than pag.
This post was edited on 8/13/19 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 8/13/19 at 2:31 pm to lsugambit
Check on A1-auto they have a replacement product called R350 and R69 depending on your needs.
Posted on 8/13/19 at 2:34 pm to Bedhog
The problem with the oil used wasn't necessarily a compatibility problem. It was more a lubrication needed for specific compressors issue.
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