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Hate to say it but English language operas aren’t as good as itilian, German etc
Posted on 3/10/24 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 3/10/24 at 3:06 pm
TheCaw is a proud American and believes that English is the best language in the world but hates to say that Italian German and yes French operas are better then English
Maybe TheCaw is to familiar with the English language that the libretto dialog sounds stilted but it doesn’t make sense because regular songs in English are way better than songs in other languages to me but operas not the case
Maybe it was just the specific opera with English words I saw sucks but in general it seems those fruity European Romance languages are better for the opera art form
Maybe TheCaw is to familiar with the English language that the libretto dialog sounds stilted but it doesn’t make sense because regular songs in English are way better than songs in other languages to me but operas not the case
Maybe it was just the specific opera with English words I saw sucks but in general it seems those fruity European Romance languages are better for the opera art form

Posted on 3/10/24 at 3:08 pm to theCAW
None of those other languages could produce a masterpiece like the JG Wentworth jingle
Posted on 3/10/24 at 3:10 pm to theCAW
Going out on a limb to say this isn’t the crowd for opera
Posted on 3/10/24 at 3:10 pm to theCAW
Why would you hate to say this? Operas were written in an era dominated by Latin, Italian, German, and Russian languages. “Operas” written in English are musicals.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 3:11 pm to graychef
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Why would you hate to say this? Operas were written in an era dominated by Latin, Italian, German, and Russian languages. “Operas” written in English are musicals.
This isn't entirely true.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 3:12 pm to theCAW
As an opera fan, I agree with theCAW.
ETA: But I am a big Henry Purcell fan.
ETA: But I am a big Henry Purcell fan.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 3/10/24 at 3:16 pm to theCAW
quote:
Maybe TheCaw is to familiar with the English language that the libretto dialog sounds stilted but it doesn’t make sense because regular songs in English are way better than songs in other languages to me but operas not the case
Opera is more about conveying emotion than dialogue. It’s why operas generally come with “books” explaining the plot. When you’re hearing an opera in English, the dialogue is distracting you from the emotion.
While Romance languages tend to be a bit more lyrical than English, I don’t think that’s the primary issue here.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 3:18 pm to theCAW
This is as bad a take as the baw who was ashamed to admit that he liked poke bowls.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 3:19 pm to theCAW
quote:
to familiar with the English language
i'm guessing that's not it...
and then there's this

quote:
itilian
Posted on 3/10/24 at 3:19 pm to theCAW
I enjoy Purcell's King Arthur and Dido & Aeneas
Posted on 3/10/24 at 3:20 pm to theCAW
Italian opera is the touchstone for opera, but if we include works by Wagner then we begin to step away from traditional to more modern and furthermore we open the door to English and American "opera" that may include such things as Phantom of the Opera, Les Miserables, Chess, and even such lowly common trash as Cats.
I'd say that Les Miserables and Phantom were good, but they were copies of stories already told in prose. Chess, on the other hand, was a new story and a stand alone production. Cats should have resulted in the exile of Andrew Lloyd Weber from human association.
Some may make a distinction between opera and Broadway musicals, but in truth, there is little difference apart from the years each was produced. Both are written and produced to entice crowds from both the aristocracy and the more common man who is appreciative of artistic endeavor. Both were modern for their times and utilized contemporary instrumentation to play contemporary music to tell a story.
Of all the modern productions that "could" be considered opera, I would say that Chess best fits the bill, and while it wasn't as successful as something like Carmen, it was still a very sound offering to the public.
I'd say that Les Miserables and Phantom were good, but they were copies of stories already told in prose. Chess, on the other hand, was a new story and a stand alone production. Cats should have resulted in the exile of Andrew Lloyd Weber from human association.
Some may make a distinction between opera and Broadway musicals, but in truth, there is little difference apart from the years each was produced. Both are written and produced to entice crowds from both the aristocracy and the more common man who is appreciative of artistic endeavor. Both were modern for their times and utilized contemporary instrumentation to play contemporary music to tell a story.
Of all the modern productions that "could" be considered opera, I would say that Chess best fits the bill, and while it wasn't as successful as something like Carmen, it was still a very sound offering to the public.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 3/10/24 at 3:28 pm to theCAW
quote:This is literally the only thing I know about opera. Isn’t this like saying American soccer is inferior to European soccer?
Hate to say it but English language operas aren’t as good as itilian, German etc
Posted on 3/10/24 at 3:33 pm to Gaggle
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Dido & Aeneas
Is awesome.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 3:55 pm to theCAW
A bit of both English and Italian, mostly the later. Sarah Brightman & Andrea Bocelli. Brilliant.
Time To Say Goodbye
Time To Say Goodbye
Posted on 3/10/24 at 4:14 pm to graychef
quote:because I’m proud to be an American and English is our language
Why would you hate to say this?
Posted on 3/10/24 at 4:15 pm to Gaggle
quote:haven’t seen those but can say that the Shining is a much better movie then opera
Purcell's King Arthur and Dido & Aeneas
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