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re: Has any profession ever lost as much respect as doctors in the last 5 yrs?
Posted on 2/22/25 at 11:31 am to Righteous Dude
Posted on 2/22/25 at 11:31 am to Righteous Dude
Hilarious reading the replies in this thread bitching about big pharma, big insurance, profit motives, etc.
You know what fixes every bit of that? Government run universal healthcare.
"ohhh, but mmmcreampie, the people in the UK and Canada get HORRIBLE care". Uh, have you read this thread? Does it seem people are satisfied with the care they're getting in the US?
Imagine....all those dollars you're kicking in toward a high deductible plan back in your paychecks. All those $50 copays to have a doctor ask you to take some $12 antibiotics and come back in a week to be reassessed (and pay another $50 copay). Drug patents leading to skyrocketing drug prices which hurt consumers. We're getting absolutely raped by the entire industry. We're the ONLY Western nation to be treated like this. For some reason, we've allowed politicians to, once again, cause us to vote against our own best interests due to persistent propaganda and congressional lobbying paid for by those making money off us staying privately insured.
You know what fixes every bit of that? Government run universal healthcare.
"ohhh, but mmmcreampie, the people in the UK and Canada get HORRIBLE care". Uh, have you read this thread? Does it seem people are satisfied with the care they're getting in the US?
Imagine....all those dollars you're kicking in toward a high deductible plan back in your paychecks. All those $50 copays to have a doctor ask you to take some $12 antibiotics and come back in a week to be reassessed (and pay another $50 copay). Drug patents leading to skyrocketing drug prices which hurt consumers. We're getting absolutely raped by the entire industry. We're the ONLY Western nation to be treated like this. For some reason, we've allowed politicians to, once again, cause us to vote against our own best interests due to persistent propaganda and congressional lobbying paid for by those making money off us staying privately insured.
This post was edited on 2/22/25 at 11:34 am
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Posted on 2/22/25 at 11:33 am to mmmmmbeeer
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Hilarious reading the replies in this thread bitching about big pharma, big insurance, profit motives, etc
White democrats screamed about this for decades and now that Trump is in and put in RKK jr yall no longer care about it
Posted on 2/22/25 at 11:36 am to Mushroom1968
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White democrats screamed about this for decades and now that Trump is in and put in RKK jr yall no longer care about it
And you jump straight to politics. That's my point, man. They keep us divided.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 11:51 am to mmmmmbeeer
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You know what fixes every bit of that? Government run universal healthcare.
It does??? Well we are going to need an explanation on the state of the VA healthcare system.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:00 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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mmmmmbeeer
Vibe just got creepy in here.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:15 pm to CleverUserName
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state of the VA healthcare system.
It's in the process of being slashed so who knows where it ends up, but right now it's not bad. There are some clinics which are better than others, but it's not like it's a complete shite show.
Medicare is another example of government run healthcare. I'd say it's doing pretty well (other than private entities trying to get every cut they can).
Universal could function any number of ways...it doesn't have to look like the VA, it doesn't have to look like Medicare or Medicaid. It could be a mix of all of these programs or something completely distinct. Regardless, the aim of it would be to improve patient care while removing the financial burden associated with healthcare. Imagine being able to retire early/change jobs/quit with ZERO concern about losing your health insurance. That freedom alone would be eye-opening for the vast majority of Americans....many people are chained to jobs and work for no other reason than health insurance. It's sad.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:26 pm to Hopeful Doc
quote:This comment transcends medicine and is one of our greatest societal problems.
2) almost no publication is done out of scientific interest. It’s nearly all money driven. And there’s almost always some bias involved to find something, so a surprising number of publications wind up just being disregarded to the discerning eye, though applying them to an individual has to invite in the bias of the physician (on top of the bias in the information they’ve been fed).
My father was a research methodologist and I was an investigator. We were both taught to seek and present the truth as it actually is without any agenda - even when (or especially when) it was a bit uncomfortable. Sadly, we both saw that people began pressuring all fields to skew truth to fit various interests so that people who sought and presented truth were shoved aside in favor of people who would present the desired position - for the right money. This is the core of the credibility lapses which are what we are actually discussing in this thread. (Or should be.)
The recovery must involve a cultural demand that truth regain its rightful place as a sacred trust. That people unflinchingly embrace actual truth and punish those who sell their "professional opinions for money.
Until then, we are just milling around in a pool of activist BS with no ability to find anything credible.
Stop accepting the lies and liars!
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:40 pm to mmmmmbeeer
quote:What's hilarious is watching you criticize people for bitching about big pharma, big insurance, profit motives, etc., and then proceeding to rant about big pharma, big insurance, profit motives, etc.
Hilarious reading the replies in this thread bitching about big pharma, big insurance, profit motives, etc.
quote:Because government run ANYTHING is a solution.
You know what fixes every bit of that? Government run universal healthcare.
Seriously, I wonder how some of you are capable of tying your own shoes in the morning.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:42 pm to mmmmmbeeer
The VA system is a disaster. You must not know anyone who has experienced it. Bottom of the barrel doctors and nursing staff who are severely overworked in most areas.
This post was edited on 2/22/25 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:42 pm to mmmmmbeeer
mmmmcreampie knighting for socialism. shocking.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:43 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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Universal could function any number of ways...it doesn't have to look like the VA, it doesn't have to look like Medicare or Medicaid. It could be a mix of all of these programs or something completely distinct. Regardless, the aim of it would be to improve patient care while removing the financial burden associated with healthcare. Imagine being able to retire early/change jobs/quit with ZERO concern about losing your health insurance. That freedom alone would be eye-opening for the vast majority of Americans....many people are chained to jobs and work for no other reason than health insurance. It's sad.
This. Our system of tying your healthcare to your place of employment makes zero sense. Detaching that would free up both the workers and the employers who can then focus on what they actually do rather than having to worry about health insurance on top of everything. I just don’t get the pushback against some sort of universal healthcare.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:44 pm to TX Tiger
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Because government run ANYTHING is a solution.
So you’re good with scrapping Medicare and Medicaid I’m assuming? And social security and the military?
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:49 pm to NIH
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The VA system is a disaster. You must not know anyone who has experienced it.
I'm literally covered by VA insurance but, please, tell me all about it.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:52 pm to mmmmmbeeer
The fact that you used “literally” in that sentence and have been known to fantasize about your teenage daughter leads me to believe that your statement isn’t true.
This post was edited on 2/22/25 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:52 pm to Klark Kent
He’s just a centrist!
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:52 pm to DavidTheGnome
quote:The sooner the better. It is completely unnecessary. We already have private insurance. It's absurd that the government takes over at a certain age.
So you’re good with scrapping Medicare and Medicaid I’m assuming?
quote:Absolutely. That money could and should be invested in a much better return than what the government offers.
And social security
quote:In its current state (run by and used as the strong arm of the Deep State)?
and the military?
Definitely.
This post was edited on 2/22/25 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:55 pm to NIH
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The fact that you used “literally” in that sentence and have been known to fantasize about your teenage daughter leads me to believe that your statement isn’t true.
Typically, I ignore the dumbass gang that stalks me on these boards. But this one? What in the frick is this even supposed to mean? I mean, if you're going to talk shite, at least make it make sense?
Worse yet, you LITERALLY went back and edited it and it still makes zero sense. fricking clown.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 12:57 pm to mmmmmbeeer
Are you crying
Posted on 2/22/25 at 1:00 pm to NIH
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Are you crying
That someone could have as little wit as you possess? Yes. It's a fricking travesty.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 1:01 pm to mmmmmbeeer
I’ll take that as a yes
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