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re: Harvard's astronomy dept chair is more convinced than ever that Oumuamua is alien craft

Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:28 pm to
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/3kg8v5/the-governments-secret-ufo-program-funded-research-on-wormholes-and-extra-dimensions

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The Government’s Secret UFO Program Funded Research on Wormholes and Extra Dimensions

Documents released by the Department of Defense reveal some of what its infamous Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program was working on.




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The Department of Defense funded research on wormholes, invisibility cloaking, and “the manipulation of extra dimensions” under its shadowy Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, first described in 2017 by the New York Times and the Washington Post.

On Wednesday, the Defense Intelligence Agency released a list of 38 research titles pursued by the program in response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request by Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists’ Project on Government Secrecy.


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One such research topic, “Traversable Wormholes, Stargates, and Negative Energy,” was led by Eric W. Davis of EarthTech International Inc, which describes itself as a facility “exploring the forefront reaches of science and engineering,” with an interest in theories of spacetime, studies of the quantum vacuum, and the search for extraterrestrial intelligence.

Another project called “Invisibility Cloaking” was helmed by German scientist Ulf Leonhardt, a professor at the Weizmann Institute of Science in Israel. Leonhardt’s research pertains to theoretical quantum optics, and in 2006 his work on theoretically creating “an invisible ‘hole’ in space, inside which objects can be hidden” was cited by Nature.

Yet another title, “Warp Drive, Dark Energy, and the Manipulation of Extra Dimensions,” was attributed to theoretical physicist Richard Obousy, director of the nonprofit Icarus Interstellar, which claims to be “researching technologies that will enable breakthroughs in interstellar travel.” Obousy was credited by Gizmodo in 2009 for creating “a scientifically accurate warpship design” that could hypothetically be propelled through space by manipulating dark energy.












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According to the New York Times, much of its budget went to the Nevada-based Bigelow Aerospace, a company belonging to Reid’s longtime friend and UFO hunter, Robert Bigelow—also a protagonist of the documentary Hunt for the Skinwalker about the billionaire entrepreneur’s famed extraterrestrial hotbed, Skinwalker Ranch.


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The first hints about the program’s existence can be credited to Luis Elizondo, a military intelligence official who managed the operation for seven years. When Elizondo resigned, he requested that footage of UFO encounters with fighter jets be made public—videos that were subsequently published by the New York Times and the Washington Post. At the time, Reid sought to tighten security around the program’s discoveries.

The agency claims the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program shut down due to a lack of funding, though Elizondo said it continued to investigate UFO sightings.

In a 2009 Pentagon briefing summary, the program’s then-director stated that “what was considered science fiction is now science fact.”


Next post will make sense with info above
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 1:53 pm
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:29 pm to
https://hackernoon.com/everything-in-science-is-paranormal-until-it-isnt-67b35f34656b

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Everything in Science Is Paranormal Until It Isn’t. Here’s Why We Need To Evolve Our Perception Of The Unknown

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When you think about the word “paranormal,” what comes to mind?
Probably poltergeists, ghost hunters, or little gray aliens. Or perhaps you imagine movies like The Blair Witch Project or Ghostbusters. The idea of the paranormal has remained a constant focus of thriller and sci-fi movies, often taking the audience on a wild, but very speculative ride. Talking about the word paranormal in any context other than the entertainment industry usually results in raised brows and smirks.
But isn’t everything in science paranormal until we eventually perceive it as normal?


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What we think of as “paranormal” is often just a fact of nature.

When I was in college studying microbiology, I remember my professor telling the class the famous story of when Antoni van Leeuwenhoek first discovered protozoa.
As the story goes, he looked through a microscope and screamed, “Little beasties, little beasties!” and ran out of the room. For him and many during that time, the discovery of microorganisms was a paranormal moment. But these were living organisms, just below the threshold of our ability to observe and perceive. Today, we consider microorganisms a normal part of science, and in many cases, even beneficial. In fact, scientists discover as many as 20,000 new species per year.
A lot of what is now considered normal aspects of the observable universe were once considered paranormal.


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The U.S. has a long history of involving itself in things considered paranormal.

Historically, the U.S. has been a global powerhouse in part due to its embrace?—?albeit often reluctant?—?of the strange or bizarre.
During the early days of the Manhattan Project, many scientists and lawmakers cringed at the idea of spending tax dollars on tiny, invisible packages of matter called “atoms” that would one day be used to end the war. After all, if you can’t even see an atom, how do we know they even exist? During the 1960s and 1970s, U.S. and Soviet militaries invested millions of dollars into psychic research, psychotronics, and mind control experiments. Even today, the United States Air Force and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) is developing technology to allow pilots to fly aircraft with brainwaves.



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In the case of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), the stigma of anything that might be considered paranormal has a chilling effect on our nation’s ability to address a potential national security risk. It also severely limits the advancement of human knowledge. Advancements in technology have led to credible, reliable evidence that UFOs exist?—?far beyond simple anecdotes of untrained observer reports in prior decades. Slowly but surely, the subject is moving from the outer edges of the paranormal categorization as highly trained observers come forward with analysis of advanced aerospace technology.


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Labeling media fake becomes a political weapon that can obscure truths and spread falsehoods. Information regarding UAP, in particular, tends to be associated with unhinged conspiracy theorists, and tabloid publications are quick to compound its negative reputation.
But if we take away misinformation, hoaxes, frauds, money-making schemes, egotism, and wishful thinking, there are certain truths that cannot be denied.


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We must be careful not to give in to our human nature to dismiss what’s “para”?—?that is, above, beside or beyond?—?our understanding, just because we don’t have an explanation for it at this very moment.

That is, there is a lot out there we don’t yet understand that may be “paranormal” today but quite “normal” tomorrow.
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:32 pm to



Interstellar drive-by?
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 7:19 pm to
From the astronomer who commented on the object, Oumuamua

Abraham Loeb
Abraham Loeb is chair of the astronomy department at Harvard University, founding director of Harvard's Black Hole Initiative and director of the Institute for Theory and Computation at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics. He also chairs the advisory board for the Breakthrough Starshot project.


https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/advanced-extraterrestrials-as-an-approximation-to-god/

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Advanced Extraterrestrials as an Approximation to God
Our first encounter with E.T. technology could be as baffling to us as a smartphone would have been to a Neandertal
By Abraham Loeb on January 26, 2019


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Despite the impression one gets from textbooks, our current knowledge of the universe represents a small island in a vast ocean of ignorance. The scientific enterprise is all about expanding the landmass of this island. And it is fun to engage in the activity of gaining knowledge; knowing everything in advance would have been much more boring. Still, it would be shocking to learn all at once of the discoveries of an alien civilization that been doing scientific and technological exploration for billions of years, in contrast to our mere few centuries. The eminent science fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke codified this idea in the third of his three laws : “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.” Put another way, members of such a civilization would appear to us as a pretty good approximation to God. Meeting a piece of advanced technological equipment developed by an extraterrestrial intelligence might resemble an imaginary encounter of ancient cave people with a modern cell phone. At first, they would interpret it as a shiny rock, not recognizing it as a communication device. The same thing might have happened in reaction to the first detection of an interstellar visitor to the solar system, ‘Oumuamua, which showed six peculiar properties but was nevertheless interpreted as a rock by mainstream astronomers.


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Is there something we might be missing already here and now? When looking around us, the most mysterious phenomenon we encounter routinely is the sophistication of complex life. Some scientists wondered whether life itself was seeded on Earth by an alien civilization in a process called “directed panspermia.” One can imagine a probe that brought the seeds of life in the form of microbes or instead a 3-D printer that produced these seeds out of the raw materials on Earth based on a prescribed blueprint. The universal left-handedness (chirality) of all life-forms on Earth without exception can be interpreted as stemming from a single panspermia event, be it natural (through a rock arriving from space) or artificial in origin . Even in this context, our imagination of what aliens might do will improve once we are able to produce synthetic life in the laboratory.


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If life was seeded artificially on Earth, one may wonder whether the seeders are checking on the outcome. And if so, the fact that we have not heard from them may indicate that they are disappointed. The experiment may have failed, or we are simply too slow to mature. Well, this may not come as a surprise given the irresponsible way we behave sometimes. Perhaps if we only knew that someone is looking over our shoulders, we would do better. It is not too late for us to find out, by using the best telescopes at our disposal.
Posted by Tiguar
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 8:01 pm to
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And if so, the fact that we have not heard from them may indicate that they are disappointed. The experiment may have failed, or we are simply too slow to mature. 


Obviously we have to implement more socialism and abolish religion.

It's not at all possible our alien overlords accept we're doing well and maturing according to plan and don't need any intervention.
Posted by Erebus
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 8:05 pm to
Has Neil deGrasse Tyson made a statement on this yet?
Posted by BRgetthenet
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 8:17 pm to
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the fact that we have not heard from them may indicate that they are disappointed












Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 8:20 pm to
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Has Neil deGrasse Tyson made a statement on this yet?


This mother fricker

Rant [ON]

He was quoted (about The NY Times piece) by saying:

“Call me when you have a dinner invite from an alien'” CNN

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Call me when you have a dinner invite from an alien," he told CNN's Alisyn Camerota during a "New Day" appearance Wednesday morning. "The evidence is so paltry for aliens to visit Earth, I have no further interest."


This same a-hole started the first episode of the remake of “Cosmos” by telling the story of Goidorni Bruno (who was burned at the stake for “heretical” views) as a caution for discounting dissenting views.

This a-hole could only come up with above. Akin to being counsel for the modern Inquisition by the “scientific fundamentalists”
This post was edited on 1/27/19 at 8:25 pm
Posted by Enadious
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 8:24 pm to
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. Some scientists wondered whether life itself was seeded on Earth by an alien civilization in a process called “directed panspermia.


Or, how about God's ejaculation accounted for 'directed panspermia.' He who has an ear let them hear...
This post was edited on 1/27/19 at 8:31 pm
Posted by BRgetthenet
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 8:40 pm to
I hope Neil has a nice bottle of wine saved for them.


He better not have drank it all.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 1:10 pm to
Clip of Reid interview at the site (talking disclosure)

https://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/local-news/i-team-former-sen-reid-calls-for-congressional-hearings-into-ufos/1743467461

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I-Team: Former Sen. Reid calls for congressional hearings into UFOs
By: George Knapp Matt Adams Updated: Jan 31, 2019 11:28 PM PST


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LAS VEGAS - Former Nevada Senator Harry Reid is calling for formal congressional hearings probing the enduring mystery of UFOs. The longtime leader of Senate Democrats quietly sponsored a secret Pentagon study of UFOs and related mysteries. The program was based in Las Vegas but ended in 2012.

Now, in his first on-camera interview in more than a year, Reid says both Congress and the Pentagon should take a fresh look at the topic, and he intends to help make it happen.

"Some people say, why is Reid doing this? He doesn't know anything about science. Well, I'm doing it out of sheer curiosity," Reid said


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"As I said, this is a worldwide phenomenon. It's not just here in the United States. There are certain places we don't understand why but there are more occurrences and have been for a long long time."



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The study based in Las Vegas explored topics far beyond the nuts and bolts of flying saucers. Physicist Dr. Hal Puthoff assigned 38 topics to academics and experts, tasking the authors to project to the year 2050 and speculate on what our cutting-edge technology might become. UFOs, whatever they are, have already demonstrated some of what is possible.

In July 2018, the I-Team first released the list of those papers. Two weeks ago, the Defense Intelligence Agency confirmed the list when it released a letter from late Senator John McCain, who had requested all available materials from AATIP for his armed services committee. Reid and McCain were from different parties but were close. "Sure, John knew what I was doing. He didn't hide the fact that he was interested also. It's why he wrote the letter." Media critics have griped that the papers explored fringe science. That was the assignment, according to Dr. Puthoff. One publication explores invisibility cloaking -- craft that are not only invisible to radar, but actually invisible. That research has reportedly been underway at Nevada's Area 51 base in recent years.


Reporter George Knapp: "It suggests there might be other studies and programs that might shed light on this?"

Harry Reid: "Other programs that have been done and information they have, including different pieces of evidence."

Link below further explores above info

https://silvarecord.com/2019/02/01/knapp-releases-4th-dird-by-ulf-leonhardt-interviews-harry-reid/
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 1:31 pm to
Your clipped in bit says there are 6 observed "not just nature" things about object.

List them...pls

The link is only Pg 1.
Have to buy subscription to read it.

So.. What are the 6 ways its not nature?
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 1:34 pm
Posted by TDFreak
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 1:34 pm to
Should’ve know TPA was all up in this thread.

The interstallar asteroid was tumbling like crazy. Proof it wasn’t some alien craft.

/Thread
Posted by chinhoyang
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 1:35 pm to
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Your clipped in bit says there are 6 observed "not just nature" things


1. Skinny women with DDD firm breasts
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