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re: Guy on "neighborhood watch" kills 20-year-old from inside his garage.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 12:11 am to TigerOnTheMountain
Posted on 8/10/16 at 12:11 am to TigerOnTheMountain
quote:Ummm you do know that this same pervasive principle applies to both parties.
I base that on, in this country, innocence until proven guilty.
Yet, you quickly concluded that the person who was shot was a "thug who contributed less to society than the shooter."
We all know our legal system's stance regarding innocence and guilt. You can save us the unnecessary lesson if you're going to continuously show that you don't actually value the underlying moral and logical principles of that legal stance.
This post was edited on 8/10/16 at 12:18 am
Posted on 8/10/16 at 12:20 am to tss22h8
Is is bad that I took one look at the guy and said guilty?
Posted on 8/10/16 at 12:40 am to buckeye_vol
You completely ignore the perceived threat the shooter stated he felt he was experiencing that, if proven truthful, will completely exonerate him. The history of the deceased and the statements from the shooter paint a very different picture than the one you have chosen to believe. Sacrificing my owns rights so that a person actively engaging in a criminal act, culminating in threats against myself and property can be given his day in court is fricking hilarious and I don't believe you actually think that's the way it works. Prove that the shooter wasn't under duress and a real threat. Until then, stfu and spare me your obviously misguided thoughts on morality and how it pertains to the law.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 12:51 am to TigerOnTheMountain
quote:I'm not ignoring it; I'm just not automatically assuming one way or the other when their are two parties.
You completely ignore the perceived threat the shooter stated he felt he was experiencing that, i
quote:But you're arguing that those are "facts" as if it is already truthful.
if proven truthful, will completely exonerate him.
quote:What do I believe? You've clearly stated where you stand, and what "history" that we know of validates any of your hasty conclusions?
The history of the deceased and the statements from the shooter paint a very different picture than the one you have chosen to believe.
And the statement from the shooter is, at best, inconsistent and illogical. But regardless those are not objective facts to base your strong opinion.
quote:The facts should provide evidence on this; I'll wait a bit before jumping to a strong conclusion like yourself.
Prove that the shooter wasn't under duress and a real threat.
quote:It's really amazing how you completely misunderstood my point, and then chose to jump to conclusions about things I didn't even bring up.
Until then, stfu and spare me your obviously misguided thoughts on morality and how it pertains to the law.
You've made illogical, unsupported statements and assumptions throughout this entire thread. Hopefully it's just an off day for you because it's terrible stuff.
This post was edited on 8/10/16 at 12:55 am
Posted on 8/10/16 at 1:00 am to TigerOnTheMountain
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so you can expose those you perceive to be racist.
You did that to yourself.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 1:17 am to buckeye_vol
Now you're back peddling and claiming you weren't implying the deceased should have been given an opportunity to state his case based of some twisted view on morality you hold? Typical.
All we know is what the shooter said and that the deceased was high. We know his criminal past. I made a judgment based on the history of the deceased and the shooters statement. Instead of rushing to defend the deceased and call the shooter a racist like so many of the mouth breathers in this thread just looking for the next fabricated gotcha moment did. You said it yourself and I agree, their are two parties involved here with two very different interpretations. More facts need to come out. If that happens, I will reevaluate my thoughts on this incident. Until then, I am going to side with the guy that doesn't have a criminal past and wasn't likely intoxicated at 1 am.
All we know is what the shooter said and that the deceased was high. We know his criminal past. I made a judgment based on the history of the deceased and the shooters statement. Instead of rushing to defend the deceased and call the shooter a racist like so many of the mouth breathers in this thread just looking for the next fabricated gotcha moment did. You said it yourself and I agree, their are two parties involved here with two very different interpretations. More facts need to come out. If that happens, I will reevaluate my thoughts on this incident. Until then, I am going to side with the guy that doesn't have a criminal past and wasn't likely intoxicated at 1 am.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 2:21 am to TigerOnTheMountain
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All we know is what the shooter said and that the deceased was high.
Now you're blatantly making shite up. Nowhere did it say he was high, just that he had marijuana on him. Even if he did it won't matter. If the kid that got shot didn't have a weapon on him, the shooter is screwed. You can't shoot into a crowd at random because you believe someone in said crowd has a firearm. He's even more screwed if the kid was in the street. He'll get at least voluntary manslaughter if the kid was unarmed.
Also frick you for stereotyping Tbird. You need to drop whatever fricked up preconcieved notion you have of what makes someone black. Like how does protesting make you black? It's a sliver of black people in America that do that shite. Does occupying government buildings make you white?
Posted on 8/10/16 at 3:29 am to LCA131
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I guess I hope so...I still maintain he won't be on the ballot...
Say what now?
Posted on 8/10/16 at 5:31 am to TigerOnTheMountain
quote:The judicial system already said otherwise. The idiot is currently behind bars for murder. No bail. Good luck!
The truth is we have absolutely nothing to go on other than what the shooter has said. Therefore, that is what happened until our judicial system says otherwise.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 5:34 am to TigerOnTheMountain
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Absolutely. Then we can re evaluate. The truth is we have absolutely nothing to go on other than what the shooter has said. Therefore, that is what happened until our judicial system says otherwise.
So you are ignoring what the victim's friend said?
This post was edited on 8/10/16 at 5:36 am
Posted on 8/10/16 at 5:37 am to TigerOnTheMountain
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You completely ignore the perceived threat the shooter stated he
Point us to where he said he Felt threatened. You are miss representing with the shooter said. You said the shooter said the dead guy was high. Nowhere was that stated.
This post was edited on 8/10/16 at 5:39 am
Posted on 8/10/16 at 6:11 am to BobBarker
Like, you're a fricking retard.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 7:19 am to 3rdRowTailgater
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quote:
“I fired my warning shot like I’m supposed to by law.
WTF
Posted on 8/10/16 at 7:24 am to Tdot_RiverDawg
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fired my warning shot like I’m supposed to by law.
Lol. Like he knows the law. Is it even a law there?
Posted on 8/10/16 at 7:33 am to tss22h8
I hope that SOB spends a long time in prison.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 7:39 am to Scruffy
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Largely irrelevant if that individual was not in immediate danger.
I'd say he was not given the fact he was inside his garage.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 7:54 am to LSUTANGERINE
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So you are ignoring what the victim's friend said?
the truth is going to lie in the middle...victims friend will make sure he doesn't admit they did anything wrong and the shooter is going to try and make himself look like the victim.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:36 am to LSUTANGERINE
Oh, there is no warning shot law in NC that the shooter lied about.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:39 am to LSUTANGERINE
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Oh, there is no warning shot law in NC that the shooter lied about.
If he thought that was the law, then it wasn't a lie...a mistake maybe, but NOT a lie. Quit jumping to conclusions just because he looks inbred.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 10:12 am to LCA131
Okay, that he provided false information about
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