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Posted on 12/26/25 at 11:59 am to jaytothen
THIS
Posted on 12/26/25 at 12:47 pm to Mstate
Wife drives her 98 Chevy with a Vortec to work five times a week (60 miles round trip). Very reliable.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:03 pm to greenbean
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Tundra with the 5.7 2007-2021.
I have a 2015 Limited. About to roll over to 200K miles. 150K of those in a beach side environment. I could drive it to Fairbanks AK and back if had to.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:12 pm to Basura Blanco
I also miss simple extended cab trucks. As said the sizes are ridiculous these days, I like the size of the midsize trucks, would like to see a modern midsize Dakota.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:43 pm to Cleathecat
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would like to see a modern midsize Dakota.
They are coming out with a new one in 2027. Will probably have the 3.6L V6 and ZF 8 speeds. So starting off with a solid powertrain.
Hopefully they can keep the price reasonable.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:44 pm to Sunnyvale
Milk wagons.
This post was edited on 12/26/25 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:48 pm to CaptainsWafer
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My personal favorites are the OBS F250s and F350s. Indestructible 7.3 diesel
I love that truck too but that setup was slow AF by modern diesel standards. Maybe 215 horsepower and 420 lb ft, although you could at least get them hooked to a decent manual.
Reliable. Efficient. But slow.
The big block 454ci Chevy Suburbans and K2500 trucks in those days were bulletproof and pretty quick. But they’d get about 10mpg.
Although I am sure performance and efficiency would improve with a decent 6 or 8 speed transmission. They usually had 4 speeds. Some of the I-6 Fords had 3 speeds.
For their size, the little S-10 with the 4.3L engine was powerful enough to be dangerous off the line. Kind of got wheezy past 4,000 rpm. Those little trucks with that big V6 were sketchy AF if they were on wet pavement. Good times.
This post was edited on 12/26/25 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:53 pm to deltaland
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The 90s silverados were the best. 350 vortec, reliable electronics. They were the perfect combo of the well built trucks of the 70s-80s with modern comforts and modern ability to drive 2-300k miles with no issues.
IMO 95-96 were the sweet spot. Old body style, decent electrical system, powerful enough engine if you got the Vortec 4.3L, 5.0L or 5.7L….but with airbags and a nicer dash than the early 1990s models. In those years each of those engines had a 30-50 horsepower boost from the 1994 models - enough where you could feel it.
The early 1990s weren’t bad. But the interiors were very cheap and it had the early TBI systems. Better than the carb models in the square bodies but not super powerful. They really went next level in 1995-1996 IMO. And that was a fairly small (for a full sized) body style before they got progressively larger since then.
I also love the early Gen 3 small blocks too in the initial T800 trucks. Those things ripped. Probably 1999-2003 or so. Then GM started with the aggressive electronic shift controls and ECM’s to preserve transmission longevity with those higher output motors (around 2005ish). It got annoying until they figured that out in 2007 or so with the T900 trucks That factory tuning is the real reason the late T800s (cat eye) Chevy’s annoy me. That and the styling.
The early T900s weren’t bad. But that was an era when GM was trying to safe costs. They needed to move to a 6 speed in those heavier trucks but that didn’t happen until 2012 or so. Either that or they should have found ways to make those trucks lighter.
Still leaps and bounds better than the overweight Ford trucks at the time with those horrific 3v 5.4L motors. The Ford 4.6 was sturdy but just couldn’t move those heavy 2005+ trucks very well. Ford also stuck with a 4 speed for too long.
In those days Dodge had a solid HEMI V8 slowly phasing out the anemic 4.7L V8, 5.2L and 5.9L V8. All of them were gas guzzlers. The 5.9L and 5.2L were reliable but just weak sauce. The 4.7L Dodge was a mistake. They needed that 5.7L HEMI pretty badly.
The 1990s was when you could get a V10 or big block V8 in a fairly light truck - 3/4 ton domestic truck from the big 3. The big block 454 Chevy was actually available in the half tons too along with the painfully slow 6.5L (non turbo) diesel. But the 350 and 305 were way more popular.
At some point the V10 Dodge was in a performance half ton truck called the SRT. A buddy of mine had one. That thing was insane.
This post was edited on 12/26/25 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:56 pm to greenbean
I had a 1Gen Tundra with the 4.7L for many years and loved it. It was stone cold reliable and aside from routine maintenance never had to do anything to it in all the years I drove it. I had the Access Cab and needed more backseat room for a long legged teenage daughter - thought long, long time about the 4D 1Gen Tundra but ultimately bought a '16 Tundra with the 5.7L instead. I checked with a local shop that works on nothing but Toyota first. They said the 4.7 is a very slightly better engine than the 5.7 by a gnats arse but the difference isn't enough that most people would notice; they said if everything checks out buy it and I did. I was certain that I would miss my 1Gen and felt bad for selling it, but I really love my 5.7 better than any truck I've ever owned.
This post was edited on 12/26/25 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 12/26/25 at 1:59 pm to Don Quixote
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I had a 1Gen Tundra with the 4.7L for many years and loved it. It was stone cold reliable and aside from routine maintenance never had to do anything to it in all the years I drove it. Bought a '16 Tundra with the 5.7L and checked with a local shop that works on nothing but Toyota first. They said the 4.7 is a very slightly better engine than the 5.7 by a gnats arse but the difference isn't enough that most people would notice. I was certain that I would miss my 1Gen and felt bad for selling it, but I really love my 5.7 better than any truck I've ever owned.
I think the 4.7 was smoother and quieter. But it also had a timing belt when the 5.7 had a timing chain. So that belt in the 4.7L was a wear item that needed replacement periodically.
The first gen Tundra was IMO the perfect size truck. The 4.7 was a great pairing for it. I miss that truck. That was my favorite Tundra body style. It went downhill from there and really fell off a cliff in 2022.
5.7L had some teething issues early on but that is still a great engine. Was needed because the second gen Tundra got comically massive.
The 5.7 was not Toyota’s best V8. But it was powerfully and mostly reliable. Vastly better than their new twin turbo V6 garbage in their new Tundras in every way except output. I think the whole package may actually be smaller too since those turbos and multiple radiators and inter coolers seem to fill the entire engine bay of the new Tundras.
I wish Toyota would bring the V8 back. They could charge a lot for what is probably a cheaper motor to build than their new V35T V6 turbo.
This post was edited on 12/26/25 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 12/26/25 at 2:04 pm to member12
^ agree 100%. Buddy of mine bought the newer gen 4Runner with the V6 and it's gutless. My wife has an '09 4Runner 4.7, last year they put a V8 in them and we'll never sell it ... we get approached very frequently with inquiries about whether we'll sell it the answer is always the same: never.
This post was edited on 12/26/25 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 12/26/25 at 2:17 pm to Don Quixote
What blows my mind is that I saw a 2025 GMC Canyon parked next to a mid 1990s half ton Silverado fairly recently. That Canyon looked taller and wider. And I’m sure the 4 cylinder turbo in the new truck is vastly more powerful too. Probably tows more.
Today’s midsized trucks should be more popular. They are very large. Most share a chassis with the full sized trucks too - usually with a half ton truck’s motor and transmission. The 2.7L turbos from Ford and GM are actually solid, reliable engines. In terms of reliability…. I also think the new 2.4L Turbo from Toyota is miles ahead of the twin turbo V6 that Toyota puts in their full sized trucks now too.
Check out a modern Tacoma and compare to the original T100 or first gen Tundra. I bet the new Tacoma is bigger.
I got by with a half ton 25 years ago. A mid sized today is more than adequate.
Today’s midsized trucks should be more popular. They are very large. Most share a chassis with the full sized trucks too - usually with a half ton truck’s motor and transmission. The 2.7L turbos from Ford and GM are actually solid, reliable engines. In terms of reliability…. I also think the new 2.4L Turbo from Toyota is miles ahead of the twin turbo V6 that Toyota puts in their full sized trucks now too.
Check out a modern Tacoma and compare to the original T100 or first gen Tundra. I bet the new Tacoma is bigger.
I got by with a half ton 25 years ago. A mid sized today is more than adequate.
This post was edited on 12/26/25 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 12/26/25 at 8:44 pm to SpotCheckBilly
6.7 Scorpion diesel.
Nothing else is close.
The 6.2 GM engine was bulletproof before GM throughly jacked it up.
The Ford 300 c.i. Six was awesome, as well.
Nothing else is close.
The 6.2 GM engine was bulletproof before GM throughly jacked it up.
The Ford 300 c.i. Six was awesome, as well.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 8:57 pm to N2cars
How has no one said this…
Posted on 12/26/25 at 9:32 pm to lsufan112001
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The gold standard is prob the 80s Toyota 22r engine. With the 7.3 Ford power stroke following. Both 400k plus.
The 22R was a great engine. So are the 4.7 and 5.7 V8s, also from Toyota.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 9:36 pm to Basura Blanco
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I have a 2015 Limited. About to roll over to 200K miles. 150K of those in a beach side environment. I could drive it to Fairbanks AK and back if had to.
I have a 2013 with 240k on it. It has been used and abused, but still running hard. It is my hunting and work truck.
Posted on 12/26/25 at 9:50 pm to Sunnyvale
Those 1st Gen Cummins were like nothing else when they came out. Our company bought one like the one above, the weight we piled on those goosenecks and pulled down the road was ridiculous, stopping was the fun part.
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