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re: Graph that shows outbreak was highest in places that said they weren’t wearing masks

Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7256 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:11 pm to
Absolutely useless data.

As stated above. N.O and others had huge outbreaks before which reduces population vulnerable to infection.

Just useless to present this as actual "science".
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25397 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:11 pm to
Full court press is on to grasp at any correlative straws (evidence) that masks did anything.
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 1:12 pm
Posted by Hobnailboot
Minneapolis
Member since Sep 2012
6094 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:12 pm to
Jeff Asher has literally made a career in the past 5 months by being a mask advocate. According to other sources today like the much more respected Youyang Gu model, this actually could be a sign of limited herd immunity development. Which would be so incredibly awesome.
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
18842 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:13 pm to
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Point out the fake parts





Look no further than a New York Times poll.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
43088 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:14 pm to
Yes, it is “herd immunity” that uses the benefits of social distancing and masks. Read what Gu says. That is a good thing. I don’t know why people want to shite on it. It will allow us to do more things.
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 1:15 pm
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
26035 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:17 pm to
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Conveniently starts after BR and Nola spikes.


That probably wouldn't effect the conclusion being promoted. Before the spikes in N.O. and B.R., no one was wearing masks.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85096 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:18 pm to
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Full court press is on to grasp at any correlative straws (evidence) that masks did anything.


if you read the guy's twitter, he agrees that the mask mandate didn't do anything, as the spike had already happened

LINK

like he says, its more than likely a combination of variables

people that wear masks more than likely take all the behaviors more seriously, like social distancing and less social interactions

LINK

This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 1:20 pm
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9773 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:19 pm to
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Point out the fake parts


I know 2 people that live alone, have worn masks religiously whenever they leave their homes, and have tested positive. Both had mild symptoms. Based on this data, masks are 100% ineffective.

My anecdotal evidence and conclusion drawn above have equally as many fake parts as your graph. Assuming the source didn’t lie about the numbers used to create the graph, of course.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25397 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:20 pm to
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In a vacuum it’s interesting though.


It really isn’t, though.

It’s parishes that had the early outbreak vs those without.

Also, Latoya had a mask mandate before the statewide one, and their time frame only includes 13 days of the statewide mandate.

It’s cherry-picking data and taking it out of a context that matters. Herd immunity happened in NOLA.
Posted by Hobnailboot
Minneapolis
Member since Sep 2012
6094 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:21 pm to
Here's the Twitter thread if anyone wants to read the analysis.

Yougang Gu model re Orleans/Jefferson
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85096 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:22 pm to
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Here's the Twitter thread if anyone wants to read the analysis.



which is funny because that guy is saying exactly what everyone that is getting mad at the graph is saying
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
10505 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:22 pm to
Get this knowledge out of here
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132827 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:23 pm to
She is tracking cases.

Cases have more of a correlation to testing. In fact it's almost one to one.



Despite the ramp up in testing the positivity rate only slightly increased and will likely remain the same for the short term and decrease for the long term. In fact the positivity rate is already decreasing.


The good news it we have entered a downward trend for cases and deaths. We will have herd immunity before a vaccine is available.

This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 1:25 pm
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
43088 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:23 pm to
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know 2 people that live alone, have worn masks religiously whenever they leave their homes, and have tested positive. Both had mild symptoms


Good for them that their actions probably limited their viral load and gave them less severe infection.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
43088 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:24 pm to
He is saying masks and social distancing helped.

It happened without the Governor making a formal mandate.
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 1:25 pm
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85096 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:26 pm to
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He is saying masks and social distancing helped.


yes I know

he isn't saying it was just masks though, which is what the graph is implying

and holy shite this thread is anchored? wow



This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 1:27 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132827 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:26 pm to
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Good for them that their actions probably limited their viral load and gave them less severe infection.




This is an ignorant statement.

Viral loads do not come from the environment. They come from replicating viruses in your cells.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132827 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:28 pm to
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and holy shite this thread is anchored? wow

Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
43088 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:28 pm to
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This is an ignorant statement.

Viral loads do not come from the environment. They come from replicating viruses in your cells.


Wrong. The amount of virus you take in most definitely makes a difference.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
43088 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:28 pm to
What clown mod anchored this? Ridiculous
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