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re: Good news: UK deaths are not surging even after cases surged opposed to other countries

Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:26 pm to
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:26 pm to
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But more likely most old and unhealthy people are now vaccinated


Or died in the first go around.....
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:27 pm to
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Ya dont say? Clown




Don’t be angry with me because you can’t comprehend a simple graph

There isn’t much evidence either way in whether the delta variant is more or less severe.
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
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Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:29 pm to
I see your point but we haven’t established yet how younger people react to the delta variant. Anecdotally, a lot of people in their 30s and 40s struggled in Asia. I know a few personally. Whereas they original strain barely caused them any issues.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49043 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:33 pm to
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Interesting… Curious though, what’s the test to determine what type of COVID you get? Can they really test if it’s from regular VID or superserious VID?


They just analyze a percentage of cases and model it out. Your run of the mill rapid test won’t tell you which strain you have.
Posted by Strannix
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:51 pm to
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Don’t be angry with me because you can’t comprehend a simple graph


What in your soy soaked little sub 80 IQ brain would lead you to think i didnt know what strain the graph represented? Are you that stupid?
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85160 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:51 pm to
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Why do folks down vote statistics?

Lol. Somebody down voted herd immunity.
Posted by KORyder
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
73 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 12:55 pm to
If I’ve learned anything over the last couple days it’s that statistics cannot be trusted and are clearly manipulated by the government with the direct intent to harm the average American. Worse, this fraud is being perpetrated on us by the physician community who are all liberal goons.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Winnfield, LA
Member since Jul 2008
23773 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 1:19 pm to
Is it a coincidence that people who don’t get vaccinated just so happen to be the least intelligent people that you know?
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85160 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 1:37 pm to
When you can’t actually argue with facts and logic, and your argument is too weak and emotional to withstand scrutiny, and you get angry that people hold opinions other than your own, just build a ridiculous Straw Man . Like this:

quote:

If I’ve learned anything over the last couple days it’s that statistics cannot be trusted and are clearly manipulated by the government with the direct intent to harm the average American. Worse, this fraud is being perpetrated on us by the physician community who are all liberal goons.


It sure beats thinking.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44613 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 1:49 pm to
England does have more of their elderly vaccinated that we do though

Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44613 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 1:50 pm to
Louisiana not doing too bad in that regard

“76% of Louisiana residents 60 and older are completely vaccinated (84% of 70+).

82% of Orleans Parish residents 60 and older are completely vaccinated including (95% of 70+“
This post was edited on 7/18/21 at 1:51 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49043 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 2:09 pm to
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What in your soy soaked little sub 80 IQ brain would lead you to think i didnt know what strain the graph represented?


The fact that you drew a conclusion which compared the delta strain to the original when the former isn’t represented in the data. That’s the objective evidence. And then the adolescent string of insults you hurl when anyone points out your shortcomings doesn’t help change that narrative.

Posted by LaneRat
Member since May 2013
48 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 2:39 pm to
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The delta variant pummeled counties like India that aren’t vaccinated. People were dying in the thousands. It’s more lethal so the vaccine working against it is great news.


Actually cases in India are way down, as are deaths. But you will not read this on any media site, even though the Delta variant originated there.

Fewer cases & deaths than us there yet 3x the population.



LINK
This post was edited on 7/18/21 at 2:41 pm
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112009 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 3:16 pm to
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The delta variant pummeled counties like India that aren’t vaccinated. People were dying in the thousands. It’s more lethal so the vaccine working against it is great news.


Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71198 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 3:41 pm to
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Actually cases in India are way down, as are deaths. But you will not read this on any media site, even though the Delta variant originated there.

It is likely impossible for them with their infrastructure to keep track of Covid and deaths with a population of nearly 1.4 billion. No telling how accurate the tally is in the slums.

The same can be said to an extent about china. Then, you have the cloak of the communist government distorting the picture even moreso.
This post was edited on 7/18/21 at 3:42 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49043 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 4:00 pm to
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The same can be said to an extent about china. Then, you have the cloak of the communist government distorting the picture even moreso.


It’s the latter more than the former.

The fact that our political leadership hasn’t called for investigations into its origins and China’s initial response is an absolute slap in the face to the 600K dead Americans
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31316 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 5:00 pm to
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Actually cases in India are way down, as are deaths. But you will not read this on any media site, even though the Delta variant originated there. Fewer cases & deaths than us there yet 3x the population.


Cases in India are at the very least 7X underreported. Maybe worse. The government suppressed numbers that simply didn’t match with the number of cremations and hospital records. I can find links to articles that are mostly in the foreign press. It’s a been a full blown misinformation campaign including pushing Twitter around to stop people from reporting the truth.

The sequence in India was the following

- widespread shutdowns during original strains that led to great results - India dealt with the original virus really well

- government calls victory and opens the country up encouraging mass gatherings and state elections; no sign of vaccines

- delta variant rears its head; spreads very quickly through the air

- mass hospitalization and casualties with hospitals unable to cope

- shutdowns effected again in major cities

- vaccinations happening now and ever so slowly

I know a lot of people in India even as I haven’t lived there. About 50% of the people I know fell sick with the delta. I’m not making that number up. I’m talking people in their 30s and 40s included. Recovery time in weeks for most but months for some. 10 deaths that I’m personally aware of and many that I don’t even know about yet. It absolutely ravaged india and I know this first hand. Nobody in India believes the numbers you posted.

I don’t post much about covid on here but I thought I’d share what I know about this delta variant. Countries that are vaccinated are dealing with it better.

ETA on underreported numbers

LINK

This post was edited on 7/18/21 at 5:06 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 5:14 pm to
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I’m talking people in their 30s and 40s included. Recovery time in weeks for most but months for some. 10 deaths that I’m personally aware of and many that I don’t even know about yet.


Just statistically speaking if you know 10 people in India that have died from covid that means you should know 1,000+ people in India despite never having lived there.

Sounds fishy.

Most people here don’t even know 1 person who died of covid. So Delta would have to be 10x as deadly for your story to make sense.
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31316 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 5:19 pm to
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Just statistically speaking if you know 10 people in India that have died from covid that means you should know 1,000+ people in India despite never having lived there.


I have family there even as I moved to the states. And yes I know 10 people who died from the delta variant (don’t know anyone who died from the original strain either). If you don’t want to believe me, that’s your choice. I’ll still share what I know. Nothing in my post history will point to me being a sensationalist hack. I’m also not a democrat/liberal/leftist whatever.

I’m personally very concerned about the delta and how the vaccine performs against it because of what I know it did to people in India.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41758 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 5:19 pm to
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Whereas they original strain barely caused them any issues.


Are you suggesting that young people that had Covid the first go around have been especially hit hard by the variants?

Because there is no data to support this.
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