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re: Good luck to all posters taking the Louisiana bar exam this week

Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:54 pm to
Posted by TheShwenz
New Orleans
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:54 pm to
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What is this? I don't even...


I don't either. That's the problem
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:55 pm to
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Completely unfair


Seriously, stop bitching. It is fair. This is a very serious profession. The exam tests minimal competence. If you can't meet that threshold, then don't bother entering the practice. Your instructors told you they couldn't guarantee that everything they covered would be on the exam. It was up to you to cover your bases, so don't go around complaining that it is "not fair".

If you fail, you fail. Take it again. It's not the end of the world.
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:55 pm to
They need to quiz about effective TV time slots and buying practices for television advertising.
Posted by goldenbadger08
Sorting Out MSB BS Since 2011
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:56 pm to
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If you fail, you fail. Take it again.
You only took it once right, Sabi?
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:58 pm to
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You only took it once right, Sabi?


Yes
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 9:58 pm
Posted by DrinkDrankDrunk
Member since Feb 2014
836 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:08 pm to
I heard that they find new broke attorneys off craigslist to grade them. Is that true? How many people grade them before they decide if you pass or fail? And if you fail how long do they give you to go over what you got wrong?
Posted by lsu223
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2134 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:11 pm to
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The exam tests minimal competence.


There were a handful of questions today that I'd be surprised to find that more than 5% of practicing attorneys could answer correctly.
Posted by Mudge87
NOLA
Member since Apr 2014
550 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:11 pm to
Did you pass before or after the new format?
Posted by CarpeDiem
Member since Dec 2011
609 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:14 pm to
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The test was bad...perhaps even worse was waiting two months for the results.


This.

Good luck to all this week. If you feel like you bombed a section, don't dwell on it. Move on and focus on the remaining sections.
Posted by bradwieser
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:14 pm to
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This one had incredibly lengthy and complex fact patterns about agricultural liens
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:29 pm to
When was the new format implemented?
Posted by lsu223
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2134 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:32 pm to
I believe July 2012
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:42 pm to
I took it before then, but I know what you went through. I took the MS Bar after they changed it, and their passage rate was about 50%.
Posted by TheShwenz
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2008
1381 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:43 pm to
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Seriously, stop bitching. It is fair. This is a very serious profession. The exam tests minimal competence. If you can't meet that threshold, then don't bother entering the practice. Your instructors told you they couldn't guarantee that everything they covered would be on the exam. It was up to you to cover your bases, so don't go around complaining that it is "not fair".



The goal is to test minimal competence, you are correct. But I wouldn't agree that automatically means every examiner wrote a "fair" test. And I'm not bitching about the bar as a whole being unfair, just a couple questions here and there. As was every person, including law review and order of the coif grads, that came out of it today. I think that when a topic that makes up maybe 1% of the subject's outline accounts for up to 10% of the test it falls somewhere in the neighborhood of unfair, and does not adequately test one's competence. Yes, our instructors told us that everything is fair game (of course it's unrealistic to know everything), but they also made their opinions known that examiners write really BS questions occasionally.
Posted by Mudge87
NOLA
Member since Apr 2014
550 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:46 pm to
July 2012 and the pass rates have steadily dropped. I believe it's now the second hardest behind California.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:49 pm to
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July 2012 and the pass rates have steadily dropped. I believe it's now the second hardest behind California.


Well, don't be shocked. I've said it numerous times on this board that the practice is being ruined by state bar associations and law schools. I'm glad that the passage rates are dropping, but I would also like for law schools to be much more selective and fewer in number.
Posted by TheShwenz
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2008
1381 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:50 pm to
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July 2012 and the pass rates have steadily dropped. I believe it's now the second hardest behind California.


Also the longest I believe, at 21.5 hours. I've got friends taking the bar in other states right now and from what they've told me, the LA Bar blows them out the water in difficulty.
Posted by SetTheMood
The Red Stick
Member since Jul 2012
3182 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:29 pm to
When you finish the second to last exam Friday, you will have already taken the longest bar exam in the country. Everyone knows it's hard. Suck it up. Talk amongst yourselves, move on and focus on the next subject. You've got to bob and weave through this thing. Roll with the punches and make solid arguments. You'll do fine. Eventually.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:31 pm to
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Suck it up.


Agreed. I took the LA Bar Exam 4 days after major surgery on my face, and I studied for the MS Bar Exam while I was caring for my son who was born 10 weeks premature.
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 11:33 pm
Posted by Grizzley
Member since May 2014
935 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 11:31 pm to
Thanks man. I appreciate it. I'm not trying out for it this year but I might get some lessons and try to set the bar real high next year.
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