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re: Global Warming is BS: coldest temperature EVER recorded on Antarctica this month

Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:07 pm to
Who the hell downvoted this? Do you have a problem with scientific facts? Even the most rudimentary interpretation of the Scientific Method you learned in grade school will tell you that you need a sample size of greater than .000027% in order to draw a conclusion to support your Hypothesis. Hell, if thats all you need, you can literally pick any possible solution to support your hypothesis. Wheres the science there? Where's the reasoning?
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:08 pm to
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Well Pecker, considering the planet is 4.5 Billion years old and you are referencing temp and Ice data from the last 120 years, you are drawing pretty damning conclusion from a .0000027% sample size. For reference, its the equivalent of determining your average speed in a 1000 mile trip by taking a sample of your speed over 1.71 inches.



Yeah, but we're talking less about the highest or lowest, and more about rate of change. That's the key. The Cretaceous was way way warmer than it is today, and much higher CO2, but the rate of change from those levels to now, or into those levels...much slower.
Posted by MyNameIsNobody
Member since Dec 2013
1195 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:08 pm to
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grandmother smoked a pack a day until she died at age 101 from Alzheimer's. Henceforth
smoking causes Alzheimer's.
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
7072 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:10 pm to
Geologist and Geophysicist. Also considered an Earth Scientist or a Geoscientist.
Posted by Tigers_Saints
Member since Jun 2016
949 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:10 pm to
Is there a relationship between the Earth's CO2 levels and temperature?
Posted by Lokistale
Member since Aug 2013
1294 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:11 pm to
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"The earth has been changing for 4 billion years"


Wait... I thought that the earth was only a few thousand years old. And we should not worry about global warming because God made a rainbow and promise never to flood the earth again.

So you all should just stop debatin' this 'science' mumble-jumble...
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58265 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:14 pm to
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Washington Post already covered that
I think it is funny you are using a NASA temperature graph as your proof and then denying something else Nasa said.
Posted by Chris Warner
Perdido Bay
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:17 pm to
Biggest lie since Obama
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:20 pm to
These colder Antarctic temps are obviously man made by the carbon producing industry, aka, deniers, in order to preserve the frozen tropical forest remains buried beneath the ice down there.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58265 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:23 pm to
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See my last chart showing C02 levels in the atmosphere. It is a huge vertical jump ever since we've entered the industrial and fossil fuels era. There is a direct correlation with this and the increase in temperatures.
Is there? cause i remember in the 90's these scientists said there is a hole in the Ozone over Antarctica and by mid 2000s we would all be burned by the sun.

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I'm not saying it is going to solve anything necessarily if you read my post. I think it's a good effort and step in the right direction that many people are scared to try.
no one is "scared" to try it. People are against leftist wanting laws to "make" someone go that route when it is more expensive, less efficient, and not a real solution to the problem.

I agree, there should be more hydro. There is a hydro damn on the MS river up at old river. Why arent there more. All these river diversions should include power plants and they could fund themselves.

but solar? until battery technology progress about 20 years, it really isnt a good economic solution.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14607 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:24 pm to
Is there a chance, that the Earth is trying to rid itself, eventually of Humans and civilization, and start over. Ala, what happened to the Dinosaurs??


Posted by Tigers_Saints
Member since Jun 2016
949 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:26 pm to
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Is there a chance, that the Earth is trying to rid itself, eventually of Humans and civilization, and start over.


So the earth is a sentient being?
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31237 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:29 pm to
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but the rate of change from those levels to now, or into those levels...much slower.


Prehistoric data like this is determined by one of two ways: spot samples or computer models. You can infer trends, but not specifics, especially on a 120 year period. 120 years is nothing in geologic time.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58265 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:30 pm to
well i guess people dont agree with there being more hydro electric plants to produce more clean, free energy for our area around the mississipi.
Posted by Tigers_Saints
Member since Jun 2016
949 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:30 pm to
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You can infer trends,


Isn't that the point?

Do you think that there is a relationship between CO2 and temperature?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58265 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:31 pm to
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s there a chance, that the Earth is trying to rid itself, eventually of Humans and civilization, and start over.


So the earth is a sentient being?
maybe 3 giant frozen hurricanes are going to pop up and freeze the top 3rd of the world like on that movie that one time.
Posted by Tigers_Saints
Member since Jun 2016
949 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:33 pm to
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maybe 3 giant frozen hurricanes are going to pop up and freeze the top 3rd of the world like on that movie that one time.


Well I'd imagine that there would be an increase in hurricanes with an increase in energy.

Emmy Rossum provided plenty of heat
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:36 pm to
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coldest temperature EVER recorded on Antarctica this month

That's great news. I can leave my F250 running all night so the AC will be nice and cool in the morning.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31237 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:37 pm to
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Isn't that the point?


Sure, but you can't say the "Rate of change in CO2 is higher now than 65 million years ago" and automatically assume its human caused. During a 100 year period in the Cretaceous period, it might've been higher. Its impossible to know or to model that.

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Do you think that there is a relationship between CO2 and temperature?


From what I've read, it depends. CO2 increases typically follow Temp increases, and that makes sense. More heat= hotter oceans= more CO2 released. But there are instances where increases happen during cooling events. Some scientists think this has to do with plants dying off in cooler temps leading to CO2 increases.

Look, my whole issue with this is Dems uses shitty examples to justify taxes and subsidies. Exxon paying a dude with land in Montana to grow trees isn't helping save the environment. And imposing taxes isn't doing so either.

Posted by Tigers_Saints
Member since Jun 2016
949 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:38 pm to
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That's great news. I can leave my F250 running all night so the AC will be nice and cool in the morning.


I get a $100 bill credit if I fall between a certain window of usage, so there's def been months where I've ran that bitch
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