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re: Glenn Valley foods CEO says he didn’t know most his workers were illegal

Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:49 am to
Posted by StrongSafety
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:49 am to
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Why would I? I instilled a work ethic and thirst for knowledge in my children. I would expect more from them than that. The bigger question is, why are you defending veritable slave labor?


So who fills the job? Americans but just not your kids because they are “above” that type of job. How classist of you.

Does AI/tech come do the job? If so then AI will take whatever middle management professional job your kids are lined up for. then they’ll be just as jobless as the deported. So much for being above such a “lowly” job

This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 8:50 am
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:49 am to
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Wow, insightful


Glad I can educate you.


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A 2019 Cato Institute report estimated E-Verify caught only 16.1% of undocumented hires in 2018





You people are seriously ignorant.
This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 9:08 am
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:53 am to
There is literally zero percent chance he did not know he had issues with illegals. OK, so the e verify system doesnt work. There were other signs. We arent talking 9 or 7, it was 100 people.
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:00 am to
It's crazytalk, but let's assume for a minute his hiring practices were sound. The applicants had seemingly legal papers, they completed the I9 and made it through E-Verify.

ICE does a raid and rounds up 25% of his workforce.

What's he guilty of?
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:00 am to
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So who fills the job?


Same argument as plantation owners in the 1860's.

Necessity is the mother of innovation. As long as there is an unending supply of essentially slave labor, there will be no need for innovation.

In the interim, a Dubai-style guest worker program is what I offer as a band-aid solution until the need for illegal labor has been innovated away.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:07 am to
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Necessity is the mother of innovation. As long as there is an unending supply of essentially slave labor, there will be no need for innovation.


Good point but the current technological advances we have in place to fill this void renders human labor useless.

1) slave labor never disappeared. It was refurbished into other low paying mediums (prison labor, sharecroppers, migrant workers, etc)
2) human capital was repositioned to factories and other useful industries. If AI takes their jobs across sectors, then where do they go? What do they do? Do we put them all back on govt assistance. We can’t have massive unemployment and people not working because AI companies and robots are doing everything. That’ll create a lazy and unproductive society - something the right hates
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:08 am to
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What's he guilty of?


IMO nothing.

Unless they can prove he knowingly did it.


People act like e verify is some iron clad system.

Mingo is arguing something he knows nothing about.


Once again I made him look like the small man he is.


This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 9:13 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:09 am to
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IMO nothing. Unless they can prove he knowingly did it.


Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:14 am to
For a guilty guy he sure did answer every one of those dumbass questions.

We use E-verify. It is the required government program.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:14 am to
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Undocumented workers may use stolen or borrowed identities, such as valid Social Security numbers (SSNs) and names belonging to U.S. citizens or authorized workers. E-Verify does not detect identity fraud if the provided data matches existing records.




Keep going buddy, you are doing great.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:16 am to
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We use E-verify. It is the required government program


And if you put a real ssn that’s stolen, it will check out.



When I was at LSU kids had those fake IDs from Texas.

From MR ID or whatever.


These are real ids with just false information on them. This was 20 years ago.


In 2025 they can just buy an identity.


Come on guys.


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Staffing agencies or third parties sometimes provide undocumented workers with identities for a fee. For example, a worker named Jesus paid $300 for a badge with a stolen identity to work at a plant, facilitated by a staffing agency.



Deny reality all you want.



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A 2019 Cato Institute report estimated E-Verify caught only 16.1% of undocumented hires in 2018




This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 9:21 am
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:17 am to
So you're saying he absolutely knew they were illegals? Even though they passed every legal protocol at the time of hire?


So he should only hire white people that have no accent?

Sure seems dumb of him to talk to that halfwit reporter that can't spell...
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
2404 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:19 am to
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So he should only hire white people that have no accent?

He could start with hiring people who speak English. That may help to cut down on some of the fraud.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:19 am to
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And if you put a real ssn that’s stolen, it will check out.


This doesn’t just automatically absolve you of any livability

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In 2025 they can just buy an identity.


Yeah man, a bunch of joses and Manuels making $10 an hour in rural Iowa just have some big deals identity scheme going on.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86314 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:22 am to
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This doesn’t just automatically absolve you of any livability



It throws a wrench in your original argument about verifying documents you dumb count.


The documents most of the time go through.

No one said you would get sued for verifying documents.


Retard.


Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:23 am to
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It throws a wrench in your original argument about verifying documents you dumb count.


What argument?
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:24 am to
I'm just telling what the requirements.

Im not touting its accuracy.
This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 9:27 am
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:24 am to
How was ICE able to determine their illegality?
Posted by profdillweed
Gulf of America
Member since Apr 2025
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:28 am to
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How was ICE able to determine their illegality?



I would imagine there's a database then interrogations
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:29 am to
With access to higher-level documentation via government systems with their security clearances...

Just my guess...
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