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re: Getting a job on an oil rig
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:02 am to tigerdup07
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:02 am to tigerdup07
A lot of truth to this.
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:08 am to lsuguy124
If you have the money, get NACE certified.
And be willing to bang this on your 2 weeks off.
And be willing to bang this on your 2 weeks off.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:09 am to DukeSilver
All of the companies you listed had huge layoffs. The first guys to go are the ones with little to no experience. So sure, you have a better paying job but for how long? It works for Ensco because there isn't a high turnover rate this way. You already know what you're getting. I pulled two guys outside last hitch and they were better than most of my "experienced" hands. I'll tell my experienced hands I'm about to run off to check this thread and contact you for future employment. 
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:19 am to TigerOnTheMountain
Noble most certianly didnt have huge layoffs and are hiring roustabouts right now. They took an opportunity to fire some bullshite hands that needed to be fired anyway, but there werent "layoffs".
My point was I personally don't know anyone thats half way educated or smart that would work in a kitchen for 13/hr 14/7 when they can go to all of the other companies that hire you as a Roustabout for 21+/hr 21/21.
There are obviously people who are willing to do it since thats what Ensco does.
quote:Thats's great that it works, and it obviously does for Ensco. You act like I'm bashing your company because I've never herd of having to be a galley hand to get a job as a Roustabout, which isnt the case.
It works for Ensco because there isn't a high turnover rate this way. You already know what you're getting. I pulled two guys outside last hitch and they were better than most of my "experienced" hands. I'll tell my experienced hands I'm about to run off to check this thread and contact you for future employment.
My point was I personally don't know anyone thats half way educated or smart that would work in a kitchen for 13/hr 14/7 when they can go to all of the other companies that hire you as a Roustabout for 21+/hr 21/21.
There are obviously people who are willing to do it since thats what Ensco does.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 10:20 am
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:41 am to TigerOnTheMountain
quote:Not always, if I can get rid of a higher paying position then i can lay off less people. Especially if that hand was retiring within the next 5 years anyway.
The first guys to go are the ones with little to no experience.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:49 am to lsu480
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if you get it now while everyone else is running away you will rise to the top when it comes back.
I don't know how well this will work for getting hired right now, but I sure hope this line of thinking will help those that weather the storm (If I make it through). I only know of one engineer with our company that was let go so far, and he was actually offered another position out of country, he turned that down and was released. I've seen a few engineers with operators get let go, but they were fresh out of school.
It's tough to get the funds for anything new right now from equipment to personnel. But some posters have it right. It was a good opportunity to get rid of quite a few employees that didn't need to be working anyway. They were just there, because having a warm body was better than nothing. There were a few skilled guys that got let go and it was tough to hear. But a lot weren't huge surprises.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:53 am to yellowfin
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Not always, if I can get rid of a higher paying position then i can lay off less people. Especially if that hand was retiring within the next 5 years anyway.
You lay people off knowing they're old, retiring soon, and obviously won't be able to find another job? That's a fricking brutal way to treat loyal long-term employees.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:58 am to DukeSilver
Every rig I've been on had a 3rd party galley crew, so it wouldn't help to get on with the drilling contractor anyway.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:00 am to DrinkDrankDrunk
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You lay people off knowing they're old, retiring soon, and obviously won't be able to find another job? That's a fricking brutal way to treat loyal long-term employees.
They are offered a package and early retirement. That happens everywhere
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:03 am to LSUTiger205
Are you eligible for the CSP? Though if you can get the ASP and military you will be in pretty good shape. ASP and CSP are preferred over most of the others. Take a good prep class for the ASP and its not really that bad. Long test but not that bad
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:36 am to Dooshay
But that's apparently not how ensco does it.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:42 am to DukeSilver
I'd really like to see some sort of proof that those companies are hiring guys with no experience at those rates. If they are, more power to em. I just don't believe it.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:52 am to lsuguy124
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I know not having any experience doesn't exactly help my case but are there any certifications or training courses I could take aside from First Aid, H2S Awareness, and Well control to help land a job? Any advice helps and TIA.
If you have zero experience then well control training wouldn't be in the top three training courses on your list.
Companies who hire you will make you offshore-ready. I recommend getting a TWIC card.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 11:53 am
Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:04 pm to lsuguy124
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Any advice helps and TIA.
Do something else for the next couple of years. Unless the Middle East blows up causing production shut-ins, it's going to take a while for demand to outstrip the current production rates. Fracking added a lot to the supply side and global demand has been relatively flat. China's economy isn't growing exponentially as it was.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:15 pm to lsuguy124
Do you own white Oakley and truck nuts?
Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:18 pm to Tiger Ryno
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Do you own white Oakley and truck nuts?
Don't forget your oilfield camo.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:19 pm to Tiger Ryno
No. And I also lack salt life and yeti stickers, so what I've gathered is that I need several trashy stickers on a jacked up POS with truck nuts, a TWIC card, and to leave Jody a few beers in the fridge. 
Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:19 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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TigerOnTheMountain
What rig are you on?
Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:29 pm to poochie
quote:I guess I can't prove it to you, thats just what Roustabouts make for the big drilling contractors offshore. Anywhere between $21 and $24 depending on the company.
I'd really like to see some sort of proof that those companies are hiring guys with no experience at those rates. If they are, more power to em. I just don't believe it.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 2:22 pm to DukeSilver
It's not. Third party catering was shite and they decided to hire their own hands. However, they are managed by a third party company. Not everyone has to start in the galley, but most now do because of the availability of good hands within our company and those that have experience and were laid off elsewhere. Its a way for guys without any offshore experience to gain it and start their career offshore. And it helps limit the amount of shitbags with no experience being hired, which can lead to recordable incidents. At least when they are in the galley, you know what you have before they go outside. Each person is different, but most will start in galley. If Ensco feels like you aren't worth the risk outside as a roustabout or whatever, they will give you the opportunity to gain experience and prove your worth. That's how they are. I don't necessarily agree with it, but it makes sense.
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