re: Germany > USA; Pitbulls are Banned in Deutschland

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So what did they do with all the dangerous breeds? Round them up into camps?

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They tried several other things first, but this was their final solution.

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I'm always gathering evidence on the general unsuitability of Pitbulls in a modern culture. I recently came across this information while considering the possibility of proposing similar legislation within my community, and hopefully my State government.

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Certain breeds (and cross breeds) of dogs present special problems. The rules vary from state to state in Germany, but most consider Pit Bulls, Staffordshire Bull Terriers and American Staffordshire Terriers too dangerous. Their import is banned.

Not sure about Staffordshires, but if they look similar to a Pit, I think guilt by association is fine with me.

I speak to my rep about this issue at church all the time. Legislation to outlaw Pitbulls (and imprison their owners, should the Pit kill or maim an innocent bystander) should be considered and debated with public comment.

Owners always claim 'they didndu nuffin before,' but the fact is these dogs are ticking time bombs who serve no purpose and should be exterminated.

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Yep. They're all vicious as hell.



I've been bringing mine to work everyday for about 5 months. A couple weeks ago I started nightshift, so I got her a vest. And this isn't in the job trailer on some small time residential project. It's a $100+ million major infrastructure project. I'm pretty sure they like her more than me around there. They definitely bring her more treats than me.

A little history lesson...

From the dog's initial breeding in America, they were bred to be very friendly with humans. Their job wasn't to protect their family against people. It was protect them and their farms against animals that would hurt their crops and animals.

They used to be the all-American breed of dogs. More popular than Golden Retrievers and Labradors. They were commonly used in advertisments, for companies like RCA and Buster Brown. You had Petey from the Little Rascals. Even the United States government used them in World War 1 ads.








So what happened?

People moved out to the suburbs after WW2, and other dogs became more popular with middle class families. Less tough and more friendly looking. Pits became more popular with lower economic class people, often still in the bigger cities and country. Eventually, scumbags got a hold of the breed. And that's where the breed's problems began.

The 3 major breeds known as pitbulls (American Pitbull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, and the Staffordshire Bull Terrier) came from an extinct breed called the Olde English Bulldogge (yes, that's the actual spelling). That breed was used for a sport bull baiting, which was outlawed in England in the early 1800s. So the desire to please their owners and the instincts to fight other animals at their command was buried in there. Which made it appealing for scumbag fighters.

But for decades, even dog fighters intentionally bred them against aggression towards humans. If a fight was going on, and they needed to stop it, you wanted to be sure they didn't go after your hand.

By the late 80s to 90s, a new batch of dog fighters appeared. They started fighting their dogs to the death. Almost sociopathic. They also became more popular in ghettos, and with rappers. Now random douchebags with inferiority complexs, started getting pitbulls to look tough and guard their house.

But pits aren't supposed to be guard dogs. If you raise them around people, and they are a part of the family, they have great, loving personalities. But training them to be a guard dog is against their instincts.

You want a guard dog, get a Chow, a Doberman, or a breed that bred to be a guard dog. These trashy scumbags just turn the dog into a wildcard, a loose cannon.

Dogs almost always attack out of fear. And by chaining them up outside all day, not socializing them, mistreating them, or raising them to be a guard dog, they're are scared as hell.


Now they're not all good dogs. Because of their popularity with trashy people, you have puppy mill pitbulls. And that's a huge problem. This isn't a Chihuahua or a Pomeranian. This is a 50-80 pound dog, that's incredibly athletic. It can, and has, killed people. When any big dog has bad breeding, it can and will be as unstable as any breed.

In one month where I'm working, I had four people ask me to buy my dog. What kind of person would ask a stranger walking their dog, at night, if theat dog is for sale? I was mad as hell every time. She's a 3.5 year old dog. It was obvious these trashy POS's had ulterior motives.








So go right ahead and ban all pitbulls. What do you think will happen? Do you really think these same scumbags will never get another dog? Of course they will. They'll just imbreed another type of dog. Maybe it'll be boxers or German Shepards, etc.

If you buy your dog at a flea market or a Walmart parking lot, you deserve to be slapped.


If you want to make legislation to protect against dog attacks, don't limit it to just pitbulls. Any dog with a shitty owner can be a problem. And if that dog is more then 20-25 lbs, it could seriously hurt a child. Make dog owner responsible for their dogs. Because if my face is getting chewed off, I don't care if it was a pitbull or a Labrador. My face is still gone.

Make regulations that create better owners. Require dog licensing. Make first time dog owners take a class on how to train and raise a dog. Keep it affordable. We've got the technology to teach and keep records. And if somebody can't afford a $50-100 class, then they shouldn't get a dog.

That's a great post.

But nothing brings out the OT pussies like a pitbull.

Whole bunch of fake tough guys who want to kill a whole breed of dogs they've don't know shite about.

I have boxers here that our neighbors tried to claim were American Bulldogs which are also on the list. The amount of bullshite we had to go to prove they were boxers including their paperwork and a DNA test was ridiculous. All it takes is an accusation here from a shitty neighbor and then you have to deal with the Ordnungsamt that are full of incompetent retards that are a pain in the arse to deal with.

This is Sargent Stubby...

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Born: 1916 or 1917
Died: March 16, 1926 (aged 9–10)
Place of display: Smithsonian - "The Price of Freedom" exhibition
Allegiance: United States of America
Service/branch- United States Army
Rank: Sergeant
Uni: 102nd Infantry Regiment 26th (Yankee) Division
Battles/wars World War I
Awards Humane Education Society Gold Medal
Wound stripe
Other work Georgetown Hoyas' mascot

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Sergeant Stubby (1916 or 1917 – March 16, 1926) was a dog who was the official mascot of the 102nd Infantry Regiment (United States), assigned to the 26th (Yankee) Division. He served for 18 months and participated in seventeen battles on the Western Front. He saved his regiment from surprise mustard gas attacks, found and comforted the wounded, and once caught a German soldier by the seat of his pants, holding him there until American soldiers found him. Back home, his exploits were front page news in major newspapers.

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Stubby has been called the most decorated war dog of World War I and the only dog to be nominated for rank and then promoted to sergeant through combat, a claim having no official documentary evidence, but recognized in connection with an exhibition at the Smithsonian Institution.

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Stubby was found wandering the grounds of the Yale University campus in New Haven, Connecticut in July 1917 while members of the 102nd Infantry were training. The dog hung around as the men drilled and one soldier, Corporal Robert Conroy, developed a fondness for the dog.[3] When it came time for the outfit to ship out, Conroy hid Stubby on board the troop ship. As they were getting off the ship in France, he hid Stubby under his overcoat without detection.[8] Upon discovery by Conroy's commanding officer, Stubby saluted him as he had been trained to in camp, and the commanding officer allowed the dog to stay on board

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Stubby served with the 102nd Infantry Regiment in the trenches in France for 18 months and participated in four offensives and 17 battles. He entered combat on February 5, 1918 at Chemin des Dames, north of Soissons, and was under constant fire, day and night for over a month. In April 1918, during a raid to take Schieprey, Stubby was wounded in the foreleg by the retreating Germans throwing hand grenades. He was sent to the rear for convalescence, and as he had done on the front was able to improve morale. When he recovered from his wounds, Stubby returned to the trenches. He ultimately had two wound stripes.

In his first year of battle Stubby was injured by mustard gas. After he recovered, he returned with a specially designed gas mask to protect him. Also, he learned to warn his unit of poison gas attacks, located wounded soldiers in no man's land, and — since he could hear the whine of incoming artillery shells before humans could — became very adept at letting his unit know when to duck for cover. He was solely responsible for capturing a German spy in the Argonne. Due to his capture of the enemy spy, the commander of the 102 Infantry nominated Stubby for the rank of sergeant. However, whether Stubby was actually promoted or even an official member of the Army has been disputed. Following the retaking of Château-Thierry by the US, the women of the town made Stubby a chamois coat on which were pinned his many medals. He also helped free a French town from the Germans.[citation needed] He was later injured in the chest and leg by a grenade. At the end of the war, Robert Conroy smuggled Stubby home.

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Way to attack the troops. These soldiers who rushed their lives for your freedom. Apparently at your church, they must hate America.

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Pit owners obviously aren't smart enough to make their own rational decisions.

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Hmm...seems like I've heard this bullshite argument before.

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Germany > USA; Pitbulls are Banned in Deutschland

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I'd rather pitbulls than muslims.