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re: Georgia deputies seize over $500,000 in cash during traffic stop
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:36 am to LNCHBOX
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:36 am to LNCHBOX
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LNCHBOX
always a pleasure. quote:
In the East Texas town of Tenaha, the district attorney oversaw a particularly Dickensian operation: Local cops would stop out-of-town drivers on the flimsiest of pretexts to look for cash, DVD players, cell phones, anything of value. The DA would threaten drivers with criminal charges, even promising to have state authorities remove kids from parents unless they waived rights to the property.
A class-action lawsuit uncovered that the proceeds from this highway robbery—an estimated $3 million between 2006 and 2008—were paying for popcorn machines, donations to a local Baptist church and bonuses for law enforcement key to the operation. Meanwhile, the DA was handing out light sentences to those caught with drugs, or laundered money, in exchange for seizing their assets.
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Eventually they messed with the wrong people and the DA got sued personally and lost, but that was after a lot of people had their rights trampled.
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:36 am to MrLarson
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All of it is wrapped the same way they wrap cocaine, the same rubber bands, the same style of wrapping, so when you see that you know where that money’s derived from,” Paulk said.
I’m hoping they mean the money was sealed in plastic bricks like coke. Maybe they just unwrapped the bricks of cash for the photo.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:37 am to NYNolaguy1
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If a person is arrested, in my eyes thats appropriate to seize any assets associated with the crime. That said if the person is acquitted or charges dropped the seized assets need to be released. Just my .02.
Yeah, no way that could ever been abused . . .
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:38 am to TOSOV
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Not saying you agree BUT you are confirming it's not some alien idea to do so.
Lots of things we may not agree with we are stuck having to do cause negative things come of it. Like wearing seatbelts....
The government robbing citizens without proof of any crime is a little more egregious than seat belt laws (which I don't agree with either).
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:40 am to TOSOV
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Well I'm sure there are clear TAX records for the $500k. Prove that, or some other legal reasoning, and get it back. Dont be shady, and dont get questioned.
Prove you have that gun for a legal reason or we will assume you are using it to commit crime.
Prove you have that you weren't driving that vehicle too fast to escape a crime or we will assume you are fleeing a crime scene.
etc.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:44 am to NYNolaguy1
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LNCHBOX
Police seize Philadelphia family's home because son caught selling $40 worth of drugs
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The Sourouvelis family, along with thousands of others in Philadelphia, is living a Kafkaesque nightmare: Their property is considered guilty; they must prove their innocence and the very prosecutors they’re fighting can profit from their misery. Now the Institute for Justice has filed a major class-action lawsuit to end these abuses of power.
Back in March, Chris’s son was caught selling $40 worth of drugs outside of the home. With no previous arrests or a prior record, a court ordered him to attend rehab. But the very day Sourovelis was driving his son to begin treatment, he got a frantic call from his wife. Without any prior notice, police evicted the Sourovelises and seized the house, using a little-known law known as “civil forfeiture.”
Law enforcement barred the family from living in their own home for over a week. The family could only return home if they banned their son from visiting and relinquished some of their constitutional rights. Adding to the cruel irony, their son has already completed rehab, ending his punishment by the city. “If this can happen to me and my family, it can happen to anybody,” Sourovelis said.
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 10:46 am
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:46 am to TigerDeacon
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Prove you have that gun for a legal reason or we will assume you are using it to commit crime.
Prove you have that you weren't driving that vehicle too fast to escape a crime or we will assume you are fleeing a crime scene.
etc.
Right. Cops could do a lot worse of things than take 500k of dope money. Good point.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:46 am to ThatMakesSense
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Right. Cops could do a lot worse of things than take 500k of dope money. Good point.
Was it proven to be dope money?
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:47 am to TheCaterpillar
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I should not have to prove to a local cop where I got my cash.
Well we all know we may have to at some point, so be prepared to to do so.
I shouldnt have to prove to a store clerk I'm old enough to buy beer. I shouldnt have to prove that I have the legal right to vote. I shouldnt have to prove to a local cop I have insurance as I drive on a federal hwy. Yadda yadda yadda. Only shady people adamantly hide behind all these "shouldnt have to's" w/o at min understanding why it doesnt work that way.
Now I would like to read the timeline of how it got to be found, etc.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:50 am to ThatMakesSense
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dope
Damn right! Let's get those frickin' dopers.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:51 am to TOSOV
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Well we all know we may have to at some point, so be prepared to to do so.
Why?
That's bullshite.
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I shouldnt have to prove to a store clerk I'm old enough to buy beer. I shouldnt have to prove that I have the legal right to vote. I shouldnt have to prove to a local cop I have insurance as I drive on a federal hwy.
Do you realize how stupid these comparisons are?
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:53 am to TheCaterpillar
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Was it proven to be dope money?
We can play that game. Go ahead and give me a reason for carrying that much cash around, beyond buying a house, property or multiple (cars, boats, whatever).
I'll listen.
You're supporting drug dealers rights. Think about that.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:54 am to ThatMakesSense
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We can play that game. Go ahead and give me a reason for carrying that much cash around, beyond buying a house, property or multiple (cars, boats, whatever).
I'll listen.
Because I like bathing in money or fricking on it
I don't have to give you a reason.
Muh back the blue
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:54 am to ThatMakesSense
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Go ahead and give me a reason for carrying that much cash around
Because I have it and this is America(or used to be)
Posted on 3/11/19 at 10:58 am to ThatMakesSense
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You're supporting drug dealers rights. Think about that.
I support all American rights.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:01 am to ThatMakesSense
quote:So you want someone who isn't accused of carrying that money for illegal purposes to proactively prove his innocence? How about you play the game of innocent until proven guilty and try to throw in a little side of the 4th amendment to the US Constitution.
We can play that game. Go ahead and give me a reason for carrying that much cash around, beyond buying a house, property or multiple (cars, boats, whatever).
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:05 am to TheCaterpillar
Thats crazy stupid extreme, and anyone who thought that is ok should be charged with something. Also the city sued.
But connecting that extreme to this case is just ridic. Now if the investigation doesnt prove illegal reasons for holding onto the cash then give it back with some interest money, and move on. If it was to purchase something legit then hopefully the cops talk to whomever it was for to say "hey...here is the situation." Was it for a ransom of a kidnapped person? If so, then they need to help.
If no logical legal proven reason can be given/provided then sux for the bad guys this time.
If it werent cash that wil nvr be seen again, then perhaps different. Just cant return it with suspicion around it, knowing it's pointless to investigate. Like letting a fat kid come back to his court date with the hot pie he just stole from your grandmas window sill.
But connecting that extreme to this case is just ridic. Now if the investigation doesnt prove illegal reasons for holding onto the cash then give it back with some interest money, and move on. If it was to purchase something legit then hopefully the cops talk to whomever it was for to say "hey...here is the situation." Was it for a ransom of a kidnapped person? If so, then they need to help.
If no logical legal proven reason can be given/provided then sux for the bad guys this time.
If it werent cash that wil nvr be seen again, then perhaps different. Just cant return it with suspicion around it, knowing it's pointless to investigate. Like letting a fat kid come back to his court date with the hot pie he just stole from your grandmas window sill.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:08 am to arcalades
What would happen to two American citizens riding around Colombia with 500K in a duffel bag inside a dog food bag? Or any other shithole country in Central or South America
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:09 am to BlackAdam
quote:Cops can seize all your money that you have on you and not charge you with a freaking crime. I also saw where they were in talks about passing a new bill to where they can seize your bank accounts, instead of just what you have on you. And yet no crime had to be committed for them to do this. All they need is suspicion and that shite is theres. Cops are the real gangstas. Protest and serve
So it is a crime to have a lot of cash?
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