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re: George Floyd broke into a black woman's house and pointed a gun at her pregnant belly

Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:25 am to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41130 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:25 am to
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How about you get a ticket in the mail for every time you sped, caught or not, with the mileage added up from each offense to find the cost of the ticket or jail sentence?


What?
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
90126 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:25 am to
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His past actions don’t excuse the cops’ actions.


bingo.
Posted by pcolatiger28
Pensacola, Fl
Member since Apr 2009
1284 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:26 am to
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This forum has turned into "he deserved to be choked to death!"


No I think you’re just unable to understand what they’re saying. He was a bad person that obviously didn’t care about black lives. He was a criminal and when you commit crimes, sometimes you find yourself on the wrong end. Did he deserve to die, NO. Should the cop be convicted and punished, YES. Sometimes bad people come into contact with other bad people and this happens. It doesn’t always have to be a race issue.

Summary: Cop was wrong and should be convicted, George should not be the face of BLM, Facts are dismissed in discussions, people are ruled by the media and algorithms, and the whole country shouldn’t be in an upheaval. By and large most whites are minding their own business trying to make ends meet like everyone else. Attitude, the way you carry yourself, work ethic, and taking responsibility for your life and actions are a good start to create change.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
153786 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:28 am to
There is video footage of Michael Brown choking a grocer

No one gives a frick

He's still the Gentle Giant
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
90126 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:28 am to
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This forum has turned into "he deserved to be choked to death!"

What a miserable fricking bunch.
agree, white trash gonna white trash.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
41433 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:29 am to
Would love to see one of these mask wearing kneelers argue that!
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
153786 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:30 am to
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This forum has turned into "he deserved to be choked to death!"
You're going to get that reaction when you canonize a thug piece of shite
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44667 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:32 am to
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Agreed, but he shouldn’t be nailed to a cross like a hero.

He’s not a martyr, nor an idol.

This is a unique situation.
The cop should be punished.

I’ve argued before that the BLM cause protested the wrong examples for the right cause. The reason I’m not making that argument in this case is because, once they had him under control. the only reason to continue to kneel in his neck was to exert harm. In that manner, he is the perfect example of police brutality.
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 9:34 am
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
41433 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:34 am to
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In that manner, he is the perfect example of police brutality.


Yep. Brutality that the state of MN okayed. You get what you vote for!
Posted by Kujo
225-911-5736
Member since Dec 2015
6044 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:38 am to
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Fact. Doesn't mean he deserved to die


More about coverage. Most only watch the local news story.

'gentle giant' (6'6) (chauvin 5'9) not 6+time felon in and out of jail, armed robbery, assualt, and a host of other crimes...who cops were called to the scene by the public (not targeted)

Aubrey 'jogger' not trespasser, repeat criminal, gun charge, etx, Not recidivist 6 month trespasser who had 911 called on him multiple times by multiple people.

It's not the "FACT" it's the omission.


And then deserve to die? Let's talk.

If I put a gun to his head and pull the trigger, Murder. Direct action that we have a very reasonable suspicion that will lead to death.

If I grab 100 6'6 men, and 100 5'9 men, (Gronk vs Beiber) and had the 5'9 guy perform the move Chauvin did, would any die?

Honestly, would Beiber kill Gronk or Jordan with a knee and 150lb of weight. But before you answer.

I don't have the quote, but a police trainer was on the TV in response to the move, said that in his career he had trained 45k officers and that he trained the move to all of them. I believe he said that 9 people had died. Which the news reporter seem to think "gotcha" but then he went on to say that anytime the police use any type of force deaths can occur. tasers pepper spray, and even rubber bullets. Whenever they have to use any type of force deaths unfortunately occur. shite happens (especially if you mix pre-existing conditions and fentanyl and meth)

quote:

In a five-part series of original reporting, digging through court documents, police reports and public records, "Reuters" has documented more than 1,000 incidents since the year 2000 when people died after police fired tasers at them.


quote:

In 1995, the Los Angeles Times reported at least 61 deaths associated with police use of pepper spray since 1990 in the USA.
5 years, 61 deaths

So, 2020 and a knee move makes the headlines?
Posted by HogBalls
Member since Nov 2014
8873 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:40 am to
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This post was edited on 6/10/20 at 9:17 am
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14474 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:42 am to
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How about you get a ticket in the mail for every time you sped, caught or not, with the mileage added up from each offense to find the cost of the ticket or jail sentence?


So you think pulling a gun and pointing it at a pregnant woman’s belly and speeding are analogous? Got it. If so, I can move on from trying to have a meaningful conversation with you because you are not rational.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:44 am to
The cop is a POS and killed George Floyd without proper cause. He should be in jail forever most likely.

But I do get annoyed people are acting like a father of the year, tax paying, awesome person just bit the dust. He was a violent criminal and drug addict.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:51 am to
Does not hold any validity for what Chauvin's punk arse did. None.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44667 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:52 am to
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Yep. Brutality that the state of MN okayed. You get what you vote for!

Yes and no. The neck thing was taught to get a suspect under control. Once he was under control, there was no need to continue kneeling on his neck for such a long time.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92721 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:54 am to
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agree, white trash gonna white trash.


Is this all you can say?
Remember you said this last night?

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you window lickers have come along way, all you guys had was sky screamer and soy boy, now you have cancel culture.

Pretty good considering how dumb you bastards are.

Not a wide vocabulary when it comes to you clowns.



Trash gonna trash
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
31991 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:59 am to
I think it's extremely valid to say George Floyd was a piece if garbage AND the cop had no right to do what he did to George. That's just me though. Waiting for someone to call me racist or ignorant at any time now.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55388 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 10:01 am to
Floyd didn't deserve to be killed by the cops. Don't care what he did prior.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
71661 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 10:06 am to
It doesn't excuse the terrible policing, but it does give me pause in actually being emotional over it.

I just have a hard time feeling bad for anyone who can pull a guy on an innocent person.

I especially have a hard time when it's a man pulling a gun on a woman.

Then factor in a pregnant woman.. That's something no one should ever have to go through and live with.. Women often feel vulnerable of their safety as is.. but now to have to live with that incident for the rest of their life. I can't imagine.

That's messed up. Had he been shot that night nobody would have cared.

I want to believe in second chances, but that's a hard one.

I still want to believe he was a changed man.

I will say this. I am very appreciative of his brother and girlfriend coming out and saying he would have never wanted any of these violent protest. They both said no way would he be for any of the looting, burning, destruction.. and that he was all about peace.

They definitely still deserve justice.

quote:

Floyd didn't deserve to be killed by the cops. Don't care what he did prior.


I 110% agree.
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 10:09 am
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37271 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 10:09 am to
Your facts are races and need to have a conversation about systemic and institutional racism.
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