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Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:17 am to Saintsisit
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love when people rattle off what's on top of their head as fact. There's land all around Marathon for expansion. That Plantation area is tiny in comparison.
How much of that property is sitting on river access? If they aren't planning to use the land for something why are they closing it down?
Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:32 am to Saintsisit
It’s a picture for those unfamiliar with the area to show the proximity, obviously it’s an older picture. You keep telling me I’m wrong but haven’t said what you think it’s being used for
That’s what I’m getting at, if that side of the plant needs a small expansion, to move some things around, or road access, how much longer are they going to keep building up around a property that they already own, especially for something they are also bankrolling.
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Marathon has tanks, pipe racks, and conveyors surrounding that plantation now
That’s what I’m getting at, if that side of the plant needs a small expansion, to move some things around, or road access, how much longer are they going to keep building up around a property that they already own, especially for something they are also bankrolling.
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 6/18/21 at 12:31 pm to Ed Osteen
You're responding to me and quoting someone else's post. All I'm saying is know one knows the reason for sure but it has nothing to do with plant access or area. There's already a parking lot and gate next to the plantation for access. And the size of the plantation grounds is laughably small compared to the open area around the plant.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 12:36 pm to MimosaRouge
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That's an ugly plantation. There are so many better looking plantations like Whitney and Oak Alley
It's unique, and that is what makes it special. Same for Laura.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 1:15 pm to Saintsisit
It was easier than making a triple post and I’m not too worried about proper replies
It just seems to me that some grounds marathon owns, is surrounded by marathon, and marathon isn’t accepting offers for will have something do with the site. Whether it’s an admin building, more parking, another pipeline to the river, etc given there isn’t much else to do with the space. Seems like a more logical thought than yours of “I don’t know what it is but it has nothing to with the plant”
I’m not suggesting they are building a new unit or anything. You would be surprised with how little use of extra space can save a plant a shitload of money and headache.
Hey, agree to disagree
It’s also a slow day at work
It just seems to me that some grounds marathon owns, is surrounded by marathon, and marathon isn’t accepting offers for will have something do with the site. Whether it’s an admin building, more parking, another pipeline to the river, etc given there isn’t much else to do with the space. Seems like a more logical thought than yours of “I don’t know what it is but it has nothing to with the plant”
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And the size of the plantation grounds is laughably small compared to the open area around the plant.
I’m not suggesting they are building a new unit or anything. You would be surprised with how little use of extra space can save a plant a shitload of money and headache.
Hey, agree to disagree
It’s also a slow day at work
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 6/18/21 at 1:18 pm to Ed Osteen
No even though I dont know, knowing the layout of the plant the most logical answer is, a refining company in this day and age doesn't want to own a plantation. And can't sell it because as stated where it lies in relation to crude oil tanks.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 1:25 pm to DVA Tailgater
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That's an ugly plantation. There are so many better looking plantations like Whitney and Oak Alley
It's unique, and that is what makes it special.
I've always thought it was one of the most interesting looking structures in the state.
Imagine if the fate of every interesting piece of architecture in the world hinged on whether or not it had any tie to some unpleasant aspect of history.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 1:26 pm to Saintsisit
Which I get, I guess time will tell if they end up doing anything with the property
Posted on 6/18/21 at 2:02 pm to MrLSU
You just knew 'wokeness' had something to due with all this...
Posted on 6/18/21 at 3:19 pm to udtiger
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It's on the National Register of Historic Places. Owners have a maintenance obligation by law and can only avoid it by getting it delisted, or showing they cannot afford the upkeep.
As the statues in New Orleans proved, being nationally registered means absolutely nothing if the structure in question doesnt fit the proper political narrative. They won't bother delisting. It will rot and no one will do anything about it.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 3:36 pm to DVA Tailgater
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It's unique, and that is what makes it special. Same for Laura.
Exactly!
Posted on 6/18/21 at 3:39 pm to MrLSU
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The house was visited by about 100,000 people annually, according to the website,
This number just doesn't seem right to me. I've been by this place countless times and never see a soul at it. Hell, I drove by it today.
300 people a day, every day seems a little much
They have a few places along the river like this that might meet their demise because of location
Posted on 6/18/21 at 3:47 pm to MrLSU
Read the article. This is not about being woke. It is about money.
Shitty as it is, they are simply eliminating red ink on their balance sheet at the cost of the maintenance of a historic structure they inherited as part of a purchase on a larger industrial tract 40 plus years ago.
If anything, Marathon was given a PR opportunity to play the woke card in this situation and passed. The reporter even tried to insinuate that this was about race and Marathon didn't bite.
Shitty as it is, they are simply eliminating red ink on their balance sheet at the cost of the maintenance of a historic structure they inherited as part of a purchase on a larger industrial tract 40 plus years ago.
If anything, Marathon was given a PR opportunity to play the woke card in this situation and passed. The reporter even tried to insinuate that this was about race and Marathon didn't bite.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 4:40 pm to MrLSU
That is sad. I can understand not holding weddings there anymore but it could still remain as a museum or a bed and breakfast with tours.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 5:57 pm to T
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Is that picture from the 70s? Marathon has tanks, pipe racks, and conveyors surrounding that plantation now. Plus its really not much land. They could put one tank on the plantation property. Marathon has plenty land to expand anyway.
Yeah, I thought the same thing.. at most they could fit maybe one tank there.
I don’t think it’s about wanting to use that lot for process equipment. But I do think their reasons are business-related, and not just a PR move. Either they can’t sell the property because of process safety requirements, or they don’t want to sell the property because they don’t want some third party operating a tourist site right next to their fence line. Or both.
Couple that with the fact that Marathon don’t want to manage the property/museum themselves, and here we are.
I would bet that if it weren’t for the National Landmark designation, that house would have been torn down by Marathon many years ago.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 6:05 pm to lostinbr
I mean it’s in black and white and the plant is clearly much smaller, I took it from the OP but didn’t think I needed to put a footnote saying it was old
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 6/18/21 at 6:15 pm to MrLSU
Shell in Geismar did the same to Ashland Plantation.... Was on Shell property and used for special events and meetings. Black employees pitched a spitting fit about slavery a few years back and Shell shut it down and are letting it rot. These Corporate mother frickers are destroying Louisiana history over hurt feelings and wokeness and it needs to stop.
Posted on 6/18/21 at 6:28 pm to Ed Osteen
When I said “I thought the same thing” I was referring to the size and location of the lot.. not the age of the picture. It’s obviously from the 70’s. 
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:46 pm to Basura Blanco
I promise you this is about wokeness, unfortunately. Marathon is trying not to admit it publicly.
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 8:31 pm
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