re: Gabby Douglas getting trashed on social media from all sides tonight

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You need a better defensive strategy than Men Are Assholes and Should Not Do That.

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Yep. It's not victim shaming to say you'll draw unwanted attention if you're provocative. There are enough assholes out ther to make sure of it.

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Just a thought here, why isn't the 1st thing that would pop into her mind to comment be, ya know, that guys should avoid groping and harassing?

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Because they’ve made the definition of “groping and harassing” so vague that commenting on a woman’s appearance or a slight bump can be construed as such.

They are trying to deconstruct eons of evolution that dictates that the male initiate.

So much for the party of science.

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Yep. It's not victim shaming to say you'll draw unwanted attention if you're provocative

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It is if that's the first/only thing that pops into your head and not that dudes shouldn't be harassing women.

You’re either a woman or a bitch.

At some point, the responsibility stops being on the man. Women don’t get to retroactively decide they weren’t into something.

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Okay, so you’re a bitch then.

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Look at you, you're so damn tough, so admirable!!!

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But suggesting that merely making a move is assault is pure idiocy.

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I never said it was, you're using it to make some horrible point that had nothing to do with my original comment.

If you lost the tough guy act thinking you're soooooo edgy, you may actually do a little better at reading comprehension. Novel thought...

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funny enough men do treat you differently based on how you carry yourself and what you're wearing.

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That's human beings, sweetie, not just men. We, as humans, will judge a situation and react to it. How you carry yourself and how you dress obviously directly impacts how you're treated.

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agree that Aly is right and a woman should be able to dress how she pleases, 

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bullshite. Dress like a respectful adult you get treated that way.

Dave Chapelle did a great skit on this about how women want to dress like skank bags and then when they get treated like skank bags they get all offended.

A man doesn't put on a cop uniform and then when someone runs up asking for help he gets all offended and says "MA'AM! Just because I am dressed this way does not make me a police officer!"

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At some point, the responsibility stops being on the man.

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bullshite

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just think of it in simplest terms of this is my personal space and no one should invade my space (body) unless I want them to.

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I agree wit this. No one should touch you if you don't want to be touched, but "looking at you in a way you feel uncomfortable" or "making inappropriate comments" because of your attire is not the same thing.

You need to understand the situation you're in and how to properly prepare for that situation.

If I go to bars wearing flip-flops, cargo shorts, and a shirt covered in stains I know women are going out judge me and look at me funny. My response is not to try and change the way all women react to men dressed like that. My reaction is to dress differently next time.

Anecdotal:

I had a female ex-boss onetime that would wear sheer see through clothing where you could see her bra and tight pants where you could see her underwear, etc.. Very inappropriate for the workplace.

I'm sure feminists would say she's allowed to wear that and shouldn't be judged on her appearance, but I bet those same feminists would judge the hell out of a guy who showed up to work in a mesh see-through tanktop and skinny skin tight khakis that displayed his buldge.

You don't get to just wear whatever you want whenever you want and dictate how everyone else should act.

Have a little situational awareness, self awareness, and personal responsibility.

If you leave the house with your tits hanging out your top and your arse on display in 6" heels and skin tight jeans, no that doesn't give anyone the right to touch you, but they're damn sure going to look at you and make comments and stare.

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There's a huge gap between looking at a girls arse and raping said girl

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Has anyone suggested otherwise?

I'm consistently blown away the last few days with this irrational jump in every conversation to rape and assault.