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re: Founder of Jimmy Johns is a big game hunter. ( people upset)
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:00 am to Blue Velvet
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:00 am to Blue Velvet
I didn't know you correct the record guys posted on the OT
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:01 am to TigerDeBaiter
quote:Even if the excuse is that legalized hunting is the most efficient way to promote the species?
There is never an excuse for killing endangered animal species.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:01 am to Blue Velvet
people don't like surface paradoxes
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:03 am to Blue Velvet
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Even if the excuse is that legalized hunting is the most efficient way to promote the species?
yes. you see how badass the deer are in those professionally managed deer farming operations? Put up a big fence and hire some of those guys to manage the elephant/rhino/etc herds and allow guided hunts and watch how the herds repopulate
the problem is there is no wildlife management out there and all you hippies that pour red paint on people trying to kill a game animal to feed there families
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:09 am to TheAlmightySmash
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he easily drops more than a quarter million dollars on a single trophy hunt
How many people do you think this feeds? tens of thousands probably.
do you think he does it because he wants to feed poor people? or he gets his kicks killing animals?
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:11 am to braindeadboxer
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Hell at least deer aren't close to being extinct even though you can't even eat them they are so full of steroids (the high fence ones).


Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:14 am to Blue Velvet
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“Up until 2008, we had no rhinos being poached in South Africa because demand was being supplied by legal sales from live rhino. Then they banned that trade and those sales were mirrored by rhino poaching deaths in Kruger National Park.”
hmmmm
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:15 am to SlowFlowPro
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That first burn significantly contributed to the decision months later by the body that manages the global wildlife trade, the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora (CITES), to ban all international trade of ivory. Under that reprieve, elephant populations slowly recovered. The protection was undermined, however, in 1997 and 2000 when Botswana, Namibia, South Africa, and Zimbabwe lowered the status of their country’s elephant populations under CITES, enabling limited ivory sales to Japan in 1999 and to Japan and China in 2008.
Proponents continue to argue that flooding the market with legally sourced ivory or rhino horn would curtail poaching pressure on animals while providing funds for conservation, but with the one-off ivory sales, ivory demand surged, and poaching intensified. In 2008, for example, Kenya lost 116 elephants, whereas in 2009, following the 2008 ivory sale, that number more than doubled, to 267. “Some people had this simplistic view that when they dumped ivory into China, it would depress prices and drive criminals out of business,” Kahumbu says. “But that’s not what happened: It triggered interest and caused the price to rise.”
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:19 am to SlowFlowPro
Do you believe that there is a sustainable supply for the asian demand for Ivory and Rhino horn?
Even close?
Even close?
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:22 am to UPT
serious question:
the big game hunters (and their defenders) always say that the money they spend on the hunts goes towards saving the species; killing one saves 2, etc.
If they (big game hunters) are really that concerned with saving the species, why not just donate the money instead?
the big game hunters (and their defenders) always say that the money they spend on the hunts goes towards saving the species; killing one saves 2, etc.
If they (big game hunters) are really that concerned with saving the species, why not just donate the money instead?
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:23 am to UPT
So burning a product is going to stop it's trade?
Kind of like when they raid drug stocks and destroy them it stops the drug trade, right?
All that ivory could have done more good being sold at auction than was done by burning it.
That's that famous thinking that has made Africa the most successful continent on the planet.
We wuz kangs and all that.
Kind of like when they raid drug stocks and destroy them it stops the drug trade, right?
All that ivory could have done more good being sold at auction than was done by burning it.
That's that famous thinking that has made Africa the most successful continent on the planet.
We wuz kangs and all that.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:25 am to UPT
I heard the reason the chinese turned to rhino horns for medicine is because they had a communist single payer healthcare system and you had to wait months to see a doctor
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:28 am to 632627
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If they (big game hunters) are really that concerned with saving the species, why not just donate the money instead?
I get emails all the time about donating money to africa but it's usually the princes and not the elephants sending them
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:33 am to fr33manator
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Kind of like when they raid drug stocks and destroy them it stops the drug trade, right?
No, nothing like that at all actually.
There's an infinite supply of blow in South America.
Elephants, Lions, and Rhino populations are in the thousands.
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All that ivory could have done more good being sold at auction than was done by burning it.
I guess, to fund corrupt African governments and line their leaders pockets, all while perpetuating a market of an unsustainable product.
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That's that famous thinking that has made Africa the most successful continent on the planet.
No, in the past the president would have seized the ivory, sold it to china, and built a mansion.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:38 am to Napoleon
I'm all for hunting but you should never kill wild animals like this, and aren't elephants endangered anyway? Humans are shitty people, we honestly ruin everything beautiful about our planet.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:50 am to el Gaucho
Whole buncha stupid ITT.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 12:58 am to Napoleon
I was getting tired of Jimmy Johns anyway. Fat frick. What a waste.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 1:14 am to 632627
Unfortunately, many times the money paid by the hunters are the majority of the funds they have to protect massive amounts of habitat. I don't like it, but if a few have to die to protect the majority, then I'm for it.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 4:13 am to Napoleon
sjw's and the likes went after his company about a year ago for this.
poaching animals because u have money is a dick move, but this doesnt move my needle enough to care
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