re: Fossils in Greece Suggest Human Ancestors Evolved in Europe, Not Africa

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you just linked a "reasons to believe" website. if you are searching for reasons to believe in creationism there is no shortage of sites that will tell you what you want to believe.

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The same goes for you- in greater abundance. But, Here you go. This Scientific American article says the same thing.

But the Miller-Urey results were later questioned: It turns out that the gases he used (a reactive mixture of methane and ammonia) did not exist in large amounts on early Earth. Scientists now believe the primeval atmosphere contained an inert mix of carbon dioxide and nitrogen—a change that made a world of difference.

How many paintings of God do you have? I’m guessing none. Does that then mean that there are no paintings of God? Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Don’t even get me started on the ridiculousness of so called dating methods. “How old is it?” “Well, how old do you want it to be?” IDK, 300,000 years?” “Ok. We’ll keep testing until we get that result.”

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Your faith is strong.

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There's no faith required when you just look at the evidence and come to a conclusion. we have evidence of a whole fossil record leading up to humans. It isn't complete, but we can see the major steps in physiology. You use your imagination a lot when it's come to creationism, it doesn't invalidate evolution that we have to infer that there are species in between other species that we have not found fossils of yet. it's weird to me that you think all we know is invalid just because we haven't figured out what caused the first RNA sequences to form.

Something could be discovered tomorrow that would completely upend what we know, and I would be excited to learn about it. Can you say the same of your beliefs?

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What I can do, is identify the motivation behind any given argument.

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Same goes for your own, right?

There are far too many unknown probabilities and factors for any estimation to be accurate. We know that life spontaneously arising is highly unlikely though, right? Even if we take as fact that it happened here on Earth, as far as we can tell it has only happened one time in billions of years, right? Otherwise I would assume that DNA would reveal multiple distinct family trees.

But however unlikely it might have been to happen here on Earth, it did. But it could have happened on one of the trillions of other planets out there, and we would be discussing how unlikely we are to be there. Maybe it has, and our counterparts are doing just that. Maybe this is not the only universe. Maybe there are an infinite number of universes. Maybe this is not the first universal cycle. Maybe there have been an infinite number of bangs and crunches and bangs before ours.

In these cases the unlikelihood of abiogenesis hardly matters. Given infinite universes and/or infinite cycles, eventually something intelligent will come about to ask how we got here.

There is so much left to learn and discover. I find it shameful that so many people give up on the human desire to learn only to throw up their hands and say we were created.

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I don’t have a problem with natural selection/adaptation. God created kinds, and those kinds changed over time.

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Why do you insist on placing this artificial limit on the amount of change that can happen? I think this comes from the faulty idea that evolution means that a plant might eventually become an animal as another poster suggested in this thread. Can't happen, won't happen. What can happen is two different "kinds" like humans and chimps arose from a common ancestor long ago. The fossil record and DNA back each other up here. And long before that, this prehistoric ape-like creature and, say, something mouse-like share a common ancestor. The fossil record and DNA back each other up again. And long before that mammals and reptiles and birds and fish, and long before that plants and animals.

We only have to find one thing unexplainably out of place to blow the whole thing up. But we haven't, and my money is on we won't. The present state of life is known, the relationships coded in DNA. Many states of past life are known. The mechanism for getting from the past to the present is known. The only thing keeping your mind closed is a book written by human beings who didn't know all these things.

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Yet, here we are- fighting for what we believe in.

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I believe in what I can see before me and study.

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Ask yourself this: why is it necessary to teach the theory of evolution?

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Because it is important? Because it helps us to understand the world we live in? Because this knowledge unlocks another world of investigation to better our understanding?

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Well, the implications are that there is no God, no objective morality, and that we are merely animated meat buckets with no free will, and therefore no real consequences for our actions/inactions beyond our finite time on earth.

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Why does an understanding of evolution mean we have no free will? Why does it mean we can't understand consequences? Do you think we require consequences after death to be good while we're alive? That sounds like horseshite to me. Other animals love like we do. Other animals protect their own like we do. Maybe they don't understand it, maybe they don't feel it as strongly as we do. But they sure as hell have family units and packs and tribes as we do, and they work together and fight for one another as we do, and they mourn loss as we do. And they don't need to read a book to behave that way.

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I find it shameful

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the emotional histrionics of an insecure intellectual always make me cringe.

You believe in the possibility of literally every outcome except a creator. I imagine some find that shameful, but ironically I imagine you couldn't care less. Think about it.

I thought about that, and maybe it is true, but I would need to see/learn more to get an idea of how likely it might be. There are very small and basic life forms with us today, and they survive alongside more advanced life all around them just fine.

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You believe in the possibility of literally every outcome except a creator.

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This is about learning. Science. Evidence.

If you have evidence that the theory of evolution is wrong, and that all life on earth is not part of the same family tree, I am all ears. But as it stands every single bit of evidence points to the same conclusion.

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I imagine some find that shameful, but ironically I imagine you couldn't care less. Think about it.

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I think it would be difficult to build knowledge upon knowledge if we accept magic as a possible explanation for everything. If you think seeking knowledge is shameful, so be it. I will continue to do so. I can't help it, I guess that's just how I was created.

you can always tell the religious folks are getting their info from the same old tired sources when they are still arguing about stuff from when Charles Darwin was alive 140 years ago. Evolution theory has came a long way since then, but religion hasn't advanced at all.

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there are no transitional fossils at all between single-celled creatures and complex invertebrates, nor between complex invertebrates and fish.

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I literally listed a table with those things a few posts above your post

Hard to believe a modern day Baw evolved from a speck of rna pond scum.

We'll just call it magic until kork can crack the code in his insatiable quest for knowledge.