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re: Five years later, Colorado sees toll of pot legalization

Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:49 am to
Posted by LPTReb
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:49 am to
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assburgers


Maybe I have the sense of humor of a junior high kid, but this had me laughing to the point of tears.
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 11:52 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:50 am to
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Homeless that wanted easy access to weed? Makes sense to me. Struggling person in Kansas moves to Colorado....



It still doesn't make any sense why Utah would have a higher homeless rate, which is 266 per 100,000, much more than Colorado's rate of 197 per 100,000 in 2017, if weed alone was a prevailing factor.
Posted by canyon
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:50 am to

Right?
Err body knows its assBurners!
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84991 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:50 am to
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For sure. Its intellectually dishonest.


Nah, it's just a symptom of being the first mover. I've got little doubt that legalization is the culprit, but it's a problem that would disappear if it was legal everywhere.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:50 am to
Spot testing for marijuana intoxication is going to change the world once it is invented. And it will make someone a billionaire.

Right now, just it being in your system could mean you smoked weed 2 weeks ago.

Some companies tobacco test and you could've smoked a cigarette the day before and not get a job. I actually know of a girl in Denver that had that issue when applying for a nursing job and had to take in-home tests to see if she was going to fail for tobacco.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53019 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:52 am to
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Weed effects everyone differently, but for me personally, if I smoke half a bowl out of my bong, it’s just as bad as if I was driving while drunk.

I have a friend that tried it once and he said he blacked out and by the time he came to he was speeding down the interstate in his bronco running from the cops
Posted by Picayuner
Member since Dec 2016
3493 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:52 am to
Pot is certainly the solution for hard work. Once you become a regular user you lose your incentive for success. After so much time, you pretty much can't hold a job.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:52 am to
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Nah, it's just a symptom of being the first mover. I've got little doubt that legalization is the culprit, but it's a problem that would disappear if it was legal everywhere.




Man, its a cultural thing. These hip, Northwestern cities filled with progressive young people are all filled with homeless people because the cities take care of them far more than anywhere else in the country.

Portland is a prime example.


ETA:

I'm sure a small portion move there for pot, but a majority I don't think do.
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Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
5836 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:52 am to

The whole odor thing is total BS. Plants don't smell. Smoking smells.

Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:52 am to
I have. I'm not saying it is a negative, but most of what is dispersed is being used to combat, control, and in some cases prosecute within the marijuana industry.

It is a great vice tax generator, but in reality the profits generated aren't even close to a fix for Colorado's budget issues. The situation would only become worse if more states legalize. As I said, in Louisiana it would be far from any kind of fix. Even with a budget shortfall of close to a billion here, the taxes brought in would just be used to expand budgets for the entities used to control the new industry.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:54 am to
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Spot testing for marijuana intoxication is going to change the world once it is invented. And it will make someone a billionaire.


My HR department said that a spot test is the only thing really preventing most companies from laxing the rules on consumption.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:54 am to
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I have. I'm not saying it is a negative, but most of what is dispersed is being used to combat, control, and in some cases prosecute within the marijuana industry.

It is a great vice tax generator, but in reality the profits generated aren't even close to a fix for Colorado's budget issues. The situation would only become worse if more states legalize. As I said, in Louisiana it would be far from any kind of fix. Even with a budget shortfall of close to a billion here, the taxes brought in would just be used to expand budgets for the entities used to control the new industry.



What is not calculated is the tourism that Colorado receives from it.

New Orleans lives on Tourism and if Louisiana was the first Southeastern state to legalize, the tourism would explode until other states followed suit.

Couldn't hurt. We need ever dollar.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33962 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:55 am to
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From what most have seen it is a wash financially.
$247 million in tax revenues is a wash?
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:55 am to
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Consequences of keeping marijuana illegal


Name them
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:56 am to
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Its intellectually dishonest.



The whole debate is. They are doing the same thing with traffic statistics. 33 percent of all traffic related fatalities were due to alcohol. In 2017 that was more than 200 people. The rate of alcohol related fatalities has seemingly stayed the same since 2002, and in that period the number of deaths still hasn't reached the numbers it did between 2002 and 2004, which again points to another cause. During the period of legalization, Colorado's population grew from 5.17 million to 5.68 million, which I think, if I did my math right, is a growth of more than 9 percent. Isn't a more likely cause of traffic related fatalities the population growth, and the pressure it puts on existing infrastructure, rather than marijuana legalization?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:56 am to
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Couldn't hurt. We need ever dollar.



Don't get me wrong, completely on board with it. It's just not a solution in any real manner of speaking.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260790 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:56 am to
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It still doesn't make any sense why Utah would have a higher homeless rate, which is 266 per 100,000,


Utah has a lot of resources for homeless. If you build it, they will come.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:58 am to
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247 million in tax revenues is a wash?




I believe it is more than that, but yeah. They have budget issues and budget shortfalls. They saw an increase in revenue and just increased spending in the same of drug education and prosecution. It is more of a spending issue, but I wouldn't expect Louisiana to be any better about budgeting and living within their means.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
6869 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:59 am to
Lol, the Oklahoman
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:59 am to
It made their state go from red to blue.
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