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re: Five men in Spain cleared of rape because 14 year old victim didn't fight back

Posted on 11/1/19 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by LoneStarRanger
Texas/Europe
Member since Aug 2018
2404 posts
Posted on 11/1/19 at 3:44 pm to
Wtf is a 14-yo girl doing at a party with grown men, and then getting blackout drunk?
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5714 posts
Posted on 11/1/19 at 3:46 pm to
Sounds like a legal definition issue where an unconscious victim is neither forced or intimidated into compliance. If the facts didn’t meet the legal standard for rape, they should be demanding a change to the law.

ETA:

quote:

Women's rights campaigners in Spain have now called for a change in the law following the court's controversial decision.


Ah, should have read the article, so they did.
This post was edited on 11/1/19 at 3:48 pm
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30043 posts
Posted on 11/1/19 at 3:49 pm to
lets be honest here, in america they would certainly be found guilty of rape and each one would get only 3-5 years in jail

so even though the legal reasoning denying it was rape is ludicrous, they got more then double the time in jail if the trial was in america
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50253 posts
Posted on 11/1/19 at 6:35 pm to
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Real talk.

My daughter goes through that, I’m holding my own court.

That’s not just talk and i know it causes me to go to prison but that’s what I’m willing to go through if you put my baby through that

She was only 14. These POSs are all gonna be bludgeoned to death in jail, by the hardcore and=or lifers.

They´ll probably be found with destroyed assholes, as well.

Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50253 posts
Posted on 11/1/19 at 6:41 pm to
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Wtf is a 14-yo girl doing at a party with grown men, and then getting blackout drunk?

It was surely a general party everywhere thing, possibly ´las fiestas´ wherever they were (an annual, typically summer event, which each village, town, city, celebrates, and people are in the streets and wander in and out of bars, cafés, etcétera).

Where the frick were her friends?
This post was edited on 11/1/19 at 7:01 pm
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17303 posts
Posted on 11/1/19 at 6:43 pm to
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i was one of the more conservative people in my law school class, but i felt like i was the only person driven absolutely nuts by the "resist to the utmost" standard for aggravated rape. we tell women that unless they are truly trained to defend themselves and feel confident that they can prevail, to NOT resist. And then we let rapists out of the aggravated rap when they don't. Blows my mind.


Such an interesting post. You freeze, don't fight back, it doesn't seem like rape...
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30584 posts
Posted on 11/1/19 at 6:44 pm to
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Pretty sick but then again she did wake up to two Angels and a Jesus so she has that to look forward to for the rest of her life.

It’s more likely it was two Ackbars and one Mohammed
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50253 posts
Posted on 11/1/19 at 6:52 pm to
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Such an interesting post. You freeze, don't fight back, it doesn't seem like rape...

I think the intention is to preserve one´s life. Or was, anyway, when this thought process existed.
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17303 posts
Posted on 11/1/19 at 6:53 pm to
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I think the intention is to preserve one´s life. Or was, anyway, when this thought process existed.


Personal experience. Still is an innate thought process.
Posted by ChunkyLover54
Member since Apr 2015
6529 posts
Posted on 11/1/19 at 6:56 pm to
Were they moozlims?
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50253 posts
Posted on 11/1/19 at 6:57 pm to
My belated condolences. If it´s any type of alleviant, these five are going to suffer in prison. Big time.

It doesn´t restore that poor girl´s previous state however, I know.
This post was edited on 11/1/19 at 6:58 pm
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50253 posts
Posted on 11/1/19 at 6:59 pm to
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Were they moozlims?
They were basura and sudacas.
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17303 posts
Posted on 11/1/19 at 7:03 pm to
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My belated condolences. If it´s any type of alleviant, these five are going to suffer in prison. Big time. It doesn´t restore that poor girl´s previous state however, I know.


Nah, just poor decision making on my part. This girl was gang-raped, whether or not she remembers, who GAF, it's horrible. What makes people want to take advantage of young, naïve, elderly, drunk or otherwise able-bodied humans? I don't get it. I hope this young woman rebounds with force.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50253 posts
Posted on 11/1/19 at 7:07 pm to
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What makes people want to take advantage

Many reasons. Low self or no self esteem, typically. You obviously can´t discard mental illness, but it´s pretty much the first.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71170 posts
Posted on 11/1/19 at 7:31 pm to
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Get the gal drunk enough so you don't have to use violence and it doesn't constitute rape in their eyes.


Trillhog logging on to Expedia to find a flight to Madrid...
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34693 posts
Posted on 11/1/19 at 8:13 pm to
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Great, now I have to go listen to Three Dog Night.


Well, you could listen to Hoyt Axton or Elvis' version..
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29557 posts
Posted on 11/1/19 at 8:36 pm to
That teen girl’s dad could turn into a real life Peppermint

Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34693 posts
Posted on 11/1/19 at 9:51 pm to
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Wtf is a 14-yo girl doing at a party with grown men, and then getting blackout drunk?


Was Roman Polanski there?
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