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re: Five men force father to leave daughter at playground where they gang rape her
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:15 am to SmackoverHawg
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:15 am to SmackoverHawg
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You sure about that? Just cause you and your kind are pussies don't mean every male is. And it'd take more than one to hold either of my girls. Three guys? Hell yeah, I damn sure could. Done it before over much less. Not every bad guy is a fricking pro fighter and not every citizen is the pasty, dorky white male we're all projected to be. And I'll be damned if I EVER leave one of my kids alone with 5 dindus. You obviously don't have children or balls.
I have children. 2 of them , a 5year old daughter and 2 year old son. You only have 2 choices in the matter. Both mean she is getting raped in this particular scenario. So you can either watch or die, or go get help but you are full of shite if you think you gonna win that battle without a firearm.
My daughter would watch me die and then get raped. This is a lose/lose situation for anyone. Any other answer is an internet tough guy using hypothetical.
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Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:22 am to saintsfan1977
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And you would while she was raped. All these Hollywood macho men in here is funny. Yall watch too much tv.
There is not a man on this forum that can take on 5 guys. That means 1 guy holds your daughter while the other 4 whip your arse and then RAPE YOU while she watches. Next they would rape her while you sitting there helpless all because you wanted to be Billy bad arse.
This is life. There is no happy ending here. You die and she is raped no matter what.
It doesn't take a "billy badass" to avoid that situation. First, as I said yesterday, as a father you should always be aware of your surroundings, especially if you're in a dangerous area. Know who is around you and what they're doing. He should have seen these thugs long before they were right on top of himself and his daughter and either got out of there, or if armed be ready to confront any threat that arises.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:31 am to saintsfan1977
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have children. 2 of them , a 5year old daughter and 2 year old son.
Then I suggest you stop being such a raging pussy and learn how to protect your family. There's two steps. First, acquire a firearm. Second, learn to become proficient in the use of said firearm, and that means doing more than just being able to hit a paper target at 15 yards.
It's a dangerous, fricked up world out there and if you think the cops can protect you then you're a damn fool. The old saying is very true, when seconds count, the cops are minutes away. As a father, you're the one that's got to be ready at anytime. If that sounds like being a "billy badass" to you, then you've got a whole lot of growing up to do, Buttercup.
This post was edited on 1/12/16 at 9:32 am
Posted on 1/12/16 at 2:01 pm to Darth_Vader
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Two of the suspects, contradicting the woman’s tale, claimed the sex was consensual — and that she and her father were having intercourse in the park when they arrived, a law enforcement source said.
Info here and on the arrests
Posted on 1/12/16 at 2:05 pm to duggieblue
Yeah, this whole story is weird.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 2:31 pm to touchdownjeebus
quote:He returned with 2 cops, and your alternative is to stay there with 5 guys and a gun to do what?
who in their right mind would leave their daughter?
Let's see, your options are get beat, shot, and maybe have to watch your daughter be raped. His option was to come back with cops.
I'm wondering why a father and 18 year are in a park though, that sounds odd in itself.
This post was edited on 1/12/16 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 1/12/16 at 2:34 pm to SmackoverHawg
quote:In this specific scenario of 5 guys with a gun vs you the message board poster without a gun? Yea, I'm pretty sure of that.
You sure about that?
Posted on 1/12/16 at 2:36 pm to shel311
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In this specific scenario of 5 guys with a gun vs you the message board poster without a gun? Yea, I'm pretty sure of that.
What do you base any of this on?
Posted on 1/12/16 at 2:44 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:5 guys and a gun vs 1 guy without a gun.
What do you base any of this on?
That's what I base it on. Am I crazy for thinking the 5 guys with the gun could handle the 1 guy without?
Posted on 1/12/16 at 2:48 pm to shel311
Depends on the situation. From what I read only one of the five had a gun which evens the odds Considerably if the father is trained, armed, and ready.
This post was edited on 1/12/16 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 1/12/16 at 2:57 pm to blueboy
Hope that she physically and is able to mentally recover.
What a fricking nightmare.
What a fricking nightmare.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 3:01 pm to Darth_Vader
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Depends on the situation. From what I read only one of the five had a gun which evens the odds Considerably if the father is trained, armed, and ready.
Or if the guy with the gun got into the dad's face (not realizing that with a gun you want distance, because the guy packing probably doesn't know that seemingly obvious fact), the dad could've disarmed him and then it becomes 5 guys vs 1 pissed off dad with a gun.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 3:06 pm to Darth_Vader
5 guys and 1 gun equals 1 guy with 0 guns? That is the scenario, not whatever you dolts keep hypothesizing.
We are all different. The guy that is called a pussy for not offering his life in such a situation could just as easily call his detractors stupid for the same reasons. I don't know how it went down so I'll refrain from stirring shite on the Internet, where nobody gives a frick about the truth.
We are all different. The guy that is called a pussy for not offering his life in such a situation could just as easily call his detractors stupid for the same reasons. I don't know how it went down so I'll refrain from stirring shite on the Internet, where nobody gives a frick about the truth.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 3:10 pm to BamaChemE
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Or if the guy with the gun got into the dad's face (not realizing that with a gun you want distance, because the guy packing probably doesn't know that seemingly obvious fact), the dad could've disarmed him and then it becomes 5 guys vs 1 pissed off dad with a gun.
The key to the whole situation was to know these thugs were there before they became an imminent threat. Which, ideally, no father in his right mind would drinking with his daughter at a park at night in a high crime area to begin with.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 3:12 pm to shel311
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I'm wondering why a father and 18 year are in a park though, that sounds odd in itself.
According to the ones arrested they happened upon father - daughter engaged in sexual activity. They said they wanted some too. Father was too drunk to do anything. See link two above your post.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 3:16 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:But if we're replicating the situation in the OP, the father is not armed. That's what I was basing it off of, sorry for the confusion.
Depends on the situation. From what I read only one of the five had a gun which evens the odds Considerably if the father is trained, armed, and ready.
This post was edited on 1/12/16 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 1/12/16 at 3:18 pm to duggieblue
quote:Well that's uhh interesting.
According to the ones arrested they happened upon father - daughter engaged in sexual activity. They said they wanted some too. Father was too drunk to do anything. See link two above your post.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 3:23 pm to shel311
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But if we're replicating the situation in the OP, the father is not armed. That's what I was basing it off of, sorry for the confusion.
no problem. I was talking about what I'd do in that situation. Which to start off, I'd not be in that situation because I'd never have my daughter anywhere near a place like that any time, much less at night. But from the sounds of this latest twist in the story, the claims that the father & daughter were engaging in sexual activity themselves, this story has taken a turn from the tragic to the surreal. I don't even know what to say at this point other than.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 3:29 pm to Darth_Vader
FWIW, based on your scenario, 1 highly trained dude with a gun vs 5 street punks of which 1 has a gun, there's obviously many factors, but generally speaking I'm taking the 1 trained dude with the gun. He doesn't have to go 1 on 5. Odds are in his favor that he can take out the 1 guy with the gun. Once he does that, pretty good chance the other 4 scatter real quick.
Now obviously if it's close range and he's closely surrounded, the 1 dude may not be able to pull it off.
Now obviously if it's close range and he's closely surrounded, the 1 dude may not be able to pull it off.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 3:30 pm to Darth_Vader
they'll do a few years in juvi before the progressives in government "rehab" them and release them ... i'd like to see state laws allowing for life in prison for juveniles in cases like this, but the scotus has legislated that option out of government ...
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