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re: Firing people: High stress project, you gotta go
Posted on 8/17/14 at 1:44 am to Bushmaster
Posted on 8/17/14 at 1:44 am to Bushmaster
quote:20 years and these folks are not up to speed? Sounds like you or your company has fell down on evaluations. If it took 20 years for someone to see these 4 engineers are screw ups - ball dropped by someone.
Some of these folks have been with our company for 20 years and will have to either choose to go to Australia or on another project or not. Any way to sugarcoat this?
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 1:44 am to Bushmaster
I'm a strong mechanical engineer!
But my rate would be high because you seem to fire a lot of people and I'd have to live in Cameron Parish.
Is this that natural gas liquefaction facility CB&I is working on? If so, I'mma need some points on the profit as well.
But my rate would be high because you seem to fire a lot of people and I'd have to live in Cameron Parish.
Is this that natural gas liquefaction facility CB&I is working on? If so, I'mma need some points on the profit as well.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 1:47 am to ZZTIGERS
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Strangely, it's never occurred to this a-hole, that if he's continually firing the people he's hiring, maybe he sucks arse at his job too...
Constantly getting rid of the bottom 10% of your workforce and then hiring new people is the best way to build a successful workforce in my experience. If you do it for 6-12 months you are gonna be left with only studs.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 1:48 am to Bushmaster
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Like I said earlier, one of them made a half a million dollar mistake so that's an easy one. Nice guy but frick that.
I am with you but if you can get them to admit they suck it makes it a lot easier and they might blame themselves instead of the company.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 1:51 am to skinny domino
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20 years and these folks are not up to speed? Sounds like you or your company has fell down on evaluations. If it took 20 years for someone to see these 4 engineers are screw ups - ball dropped by someone.
I was kinda thinking the same... Also if the guy that cost you a ton of money has been working for the company 20 years, he's probably saved you tons of money in other areas... How long have you worked for this company?
Posted on 8/17/14 at 1:52 am to lsu480
It's much easier than that, bro. My CEO told me to show them to the gate. I work for a Huge OG&C company.
This post was edited on 8/17/14 at 11:33 am
Posted on 8/17/14 at 1:53 am to AU4real35
There are a lot of reasons that someones performance could decline after 20 years....A LOT!
Posted on 8/17/14 at 1:55 am to Bushmaster
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It's much easier than that, bro. My CEO told me to show them to the gate. I work for a Huge OG&C company.
Its easier to accomplish their firing but you still want them to feel ok about it and you don't want to have to beat yourself up over it after, ya know?
Plus if you can get a few of them to quit instead of having to fire them its just gonna make you look good to the CEO. There really is no reason not to use the advice I have offered, there are zero downsides.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 1:55 am to lsu480
Trust me, this idiot doesn't have the foresight to grasp a concept like that. You know how professional coaches are often retreads, fired, then hired by another team over & over? Apparently it works like that in the retail world with store managers. I can't even guess how many times he's been fired or quit before being fired. Just a dumb sonofabitch that loves power. I seriously doubt his IQ is much above 80.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 1:56 am to ZZTIGERS
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Trust me, this idiot doesn't have the foresight to grasp a concept like that. You know how professional coaches are often retreads, fired, then hired by another team over & over? Apparently it works like that in the retail world with store managers. I can't even guess how many times he's been fired or quit before being fired. Just a dumb sonofabitch that loves power. I seriously doubt his IQ is much above 80.
Ok, well in that case he is an a-hole!
Posted on 8/17/14 at 1:58 am to ZZTIGERS
You are a beacon of light in this dismal world. I bet the ladies love you, sons
Posted on 8/17/14 at 2:01 am to Bushmaster
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I bet the ladies love you, sons
They do, but my a-hole wife doesn't let me date.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 2:01 am to lsu480
I guess I am in the wrong. I should be fired
Posted on 8/17/14 at 2:05 am to Bushmaster
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I guess I am in the wrong. I should be fired
Please don't take my anecdote to mean that. Just the fact you're struggling with this tells me you're a competent manager.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 2:09 am to ZZTIGERS
Sorry I was being a smartass. I am competent but the kill list came down today.
Kind of took me off guard. Not trying to be a twat. Thanks for your input.
Kind of took me off guard. Not trying to be a twat. Thanks for your input.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 2:15 am to Bushmaster
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I guess I am in the wrong. I should be fired
Are you drunk? Good luck tomorrow buddy! 
Posted on 8/17/14 at 2:28 am to lsu480
Not yet but getting there
Posted on 8/17/14 at 2:29 am to Bushmaster
There ya go! Posted on 8/17/14 at 2:34 am to lsu480
Wish I could've gotten together with you, Maria and nurse cousin. Me and him worked for the same contractor that you used to judge me for.
fricker.
fricker.
Posted on 8/17/14 at 2:43 am to Bushmaster
I NEVER judged you. In fact, I said it was better than normal military service. I would love to party will all of you guys whenever! 
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