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re: Fear of Competition? Research: When Asian Students Move In, White Families Move out

Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:16 pm to
Same deal happened in the Alpharetta/Johns Creek area outside Atlanta, JC is now something like 60-70 Asian after being 90% white.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
8160 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:17 pm to
High academic standard high schools are the Asians version of travel ball.
Posted by patnuh
South LA
Member since Sep 2005
6724 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:22 pm to
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they're smarter than me, so be it.


They just study all the damn time. Indians too. When your kids are out playing basketball, gymnastics, jerking off to TikTok videos, they are doing extra homework.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39582 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:26 pm to
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I don’t think people should be demonized for not wanting to compete with foreigners all the time.


They're racially Asian, not foreigners by default.

An Asian family here for 3 generations is less "foreign" to the US than a white person who just got here from Ukraine.
This post was edited on 11/30/23 at 2:27 pm
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
14010 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:27 pm to
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model minority stigmatization.

This is how leftist Asians can be on top and still claim oppressed status.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18416 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:27 pm to
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Soft


Also realistic.

These high achieving Asian kids have very little life outside of academics and enriching their intellectual capabilities. Some of them go from sun up to sun down studying, getting tutored, and practicing. They don't have weekends free.

At my high school we have a kid who is a nationally ranked competitor for the math team. He's spent every summer since 2nd grade going to camps that enrich math team skills. He's also a concert violinist and attends coding sessions every evening. He also has maxed out how many AP classes he can take.

I can't speak for those who are actively avoiding Asian students for fear of academic competition, but if they have a reason to do so, then I don't blame them. I'd rather my kids have a more balanced life than one dedicated solely to school.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13458 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:27 pm to
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The Asian/Indian kids made my daughter's school cluster bearable. They were smart, polite, academically oriented, and well-mannered.



Same. And have very involved parents, which is great for classrooms. Probably overbearing with their kids at home, but present at school things and their kids were so engaged.

I welcome healthy competition in a classroom, I think it makes everyone who cares better. Key words are "everyone who cares".
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35498 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:28 pm to
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A recent study of wealthy California suburbs finds that white families drift away from public schools as more Asian students enroll in them
Are they drifting away from the public schools or are they drifting away from those areas in general. My family gradually left over time because they weren't initially "wealthy suburbs" and eventually the COL became outrageous. I grew up in Palo Alto, CA with blue collar parents that worked at a lumber yard. We didn't leave because of Asians. We left because Big Tech made the town (and most of the region) untenable for the middle class.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68673 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:28 pm to
Why do you fricking liberals always project?





Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13458 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:29 pm to
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The most comical Asian thing that has happened was when the media went full retard hard level on pushing stop Asian hate expecting that it just had to be white folks and if nothing else could get a couple white folks hurting Asians and blow that up into a huge controversy but yet, it weirdly never happened.

Every video of them being attacked was not even white folks and weirdly the push and videos have magically stopped.




The hate between blacks and Asians is real. And that is why it disappeared. They have polar opposite cultures and overlap in society a lot (neighborhoods, public transit, etc.)

Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68673 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:31 pm to
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The most comical Asian thing that has happened was when the media went full retard hard level on pushing stop Asian hate expecting that it just had to be white folks and if nothing else could get a couple white folks hurting Asians and blow that up into a huge controversy but yet, it weirdly never happened.

Every video of them being attacked was not even white folks and weirdly the push and videos have magically stopped.




Latoya posted stop asian hate and she was met with a shite load of racism from blacks in her comments.


Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13458 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:31 pm to
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These high achieving Asian kids have very little life outside of academics and enriching their intellectual capabilities. Some of them go from sun up to sun down studying, getting tutored, and practicing. They don't have weekends free.

At my high school we have a kid who is a nationally ranked competitor for the math team. He's spent every summer since 2nd grade going to camps that enrich math team skills. He's also a concert violinist and attends coding sessions every evening. He also has maxed out how many AP classes he can take.

I can't speak for those who are actively avoiding Asian students for fear of academic competition, but if they have a reason to do so, then I don't blame them. I'd rather my kids have a more balanced life than one dedicated solely to school.


How does this impact your kids though besides seeing another kid study more and show results from the studying?

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43338 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:35 pm to
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A recent study of wealthy California suburbs


Why are progressives such racists?
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18416 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:37 pm to
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How does this impact your kids though besides seeing another kid study more and show results from the studying?



Some universities consider class rank for college applicants. Also, diversifying acceptance rates for different high schools is a thing. I know at our high school, being in the top 50th percentile is a big deal. Pretty much gets your admitted to the state schools with a decent ACT score.

Some posters here discussed this issue in the state of Texas not too long ago. Particularly with who gets admitted to Texas.

I'm not sure of the details for OP's article. I imagine it's similar to a school suddenly getting an influx of high caliber athletes and your average Little Jimmy wanting to move to have a shot at starting on the football team.

Edit I think this is the Texas thing that was discussed. There's a law in Texas that if you're top 10%, you get admitted into state schools. Imagine an influx of kids making it impossible to be 10% unless you devote your life to academics.
This post was edited on 11/30/23 at 2:40 pm
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:41 pm to
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We should make separate but equal schools for each race


Ironically there was a school in Illinois recently that started segregating classrooms for this very reason. For pure academic reasons it isn’t a terrible idea.
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:44 pm to
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Imagine an influx of kids making it impossible to be 10% unless you devote your life to academics.


This is exactly why I went to LSU, could not get above 14% in Plano for this very reason. Hard to compete against Asians & Indians that spend all summer at tutoring centers. And no, “git gud scrub!” Is not a valid counter argument.
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
2369 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:44 pm to
That would probably prevent conflicts between students

Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
2369 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:47 pm to
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Hard to compete against Asians & Indians that spend all summer at tutoring centers. And no, “git gud scrub!” Is not a valid counter argument.


This is why I believe they should put a cap on legal immigration
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13458 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 2:50 pm to
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Some universities consider class rank for college applicants.


I don't think my nice private school even did that. I know it's a thing in Texas for state schools or UT or whatever, but I haven't heard much of that otherwise. Understood for Texas.

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I'm not sure of the details for OP's article. I imagine it's similar to a school suddenly getting an influx of high caliber athletes and your average Little Jimmy wanting to move to have a shot at starting on the football team.



Well Jimmy isn't getting cut from math class because there are a lot of mathletes.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
8160 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 3:09 pm to
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I think this is the Texas thing that was discussed. There's a law in Texas that if you're top 10%, you get admitted into state schools. Imagine an influx of kids making it impossible to be 10% unless you devote your life to academics.


Just to clarify, that law guarantees admission to any kid in the top 10% of any TX high school (along with a very low bar for SAT/ACT). But it isn't the Asian kids you need to worry about as they would get in on merit anyway. It is the less academically prepared kids who went to an inner city school where the bar is much lower who are preventing more academically qualified applicants from gaining admittance.

As for the influx of smart kids, the real affect is the other kids are now getting a better overall high school education at these schools as the standards are being raised. I experienced this first hand in Sugar Land. My kids had no shot at top 10% (my genetics didnt help) but without a doubt, were more challenged academically than they would've been had they attended the less Asian centric high schools in the same district 2-3 miles away. They each said their first year at LSU was academically easier than their high school classes and both graduated college with honors.
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