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re: FBI officially Investigating California shooting as a act of terrorism
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:49 pm to ProjectP2294
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:49 pm to ProjectP2294
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This makes sense as well, and still points to the "We released the scene" thing as a bull shite CYA move.
The military and government keeps alot of shite hidden from the public in order to keep a polished/confident look. I remember senior brass sleeping with lieutenants and it being hushed, domestic abuse, DUIs, affairs, Etc. just so long as it doesn't get out to the public. The FBI fricked up this one. Just not sure how it happened.
Also, for those saying they had what they needed, that's just incorrect. I had to send reports via secure internet line to HQ all the time. And these reports were no more than personnel numbers, boring shite that still had to go through SIPR net (secure internet). Here were taking international/ISIS attack and the FBI was done collecting? Fat chance.
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:49 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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I mean seriously is there going to be a criminal prosecution? Against who? I haven't been following it as closely as you guys.
co-conspirators?
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:49 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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I mean seriously is there going to be a criminal prosecution? Against who?
Evidence doesn't just need to be processed for criminal prosecutions. It can be used to gather additional information about possible future attacks or other individuals involved in this attack.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:50 pm to igoringa
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would you not expect to see a shite load of fingerprint residue in that 'cleared' scene?
Id expect the crime scene team that handled it to be way more skilled and knowledgably than I. That being said, I would finger print as little as possible on scene and instead try and get DNA. I don't think yall realize how outdated fingerprints are and how far DNA has come.
It was mentioned on TV earlier and I agree 100%. Having an officer at that scene is crime scene preservation 101. If you have ANYTHING left there that you will plan on coming back to you keep a person on scene that documents who comes and goes and maintains security of the place. Once it is left alone after a search then the integrity is lost. Even if no one had entered it, you can no longer say it was a secure scene. The fact that no one was there to secure it is what convinces me that they had actually released it back to the landlord
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:51 pm to 9th life
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It puts a bow on the two killers and their involvement with an end to the investigation
DING DING fricking DING!
and your words are truer than you even know
puts a BOW on it (as in Obama's quote earlier to 'enjoy the holiday', ISIS is contained)
if there were more involved and still out there, it might put a damper on christmas parties and the season as a whole in san bernardino (and beyond)
This post was edited on 12/4/15 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:52 pm to Drank
I'm sure I'll get grilled for it but I find Al Jazeera America very good. They aren't as sensationalist and the topics and discussions are much more intellectual.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:53 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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It was mentioned on TV earlier and I agree 100%. Having an officer at that scene is crime scene preservation 101.
Some local air-head deputy didn't show up...or didn't get word that they needed someone to watch the place to keep the hundreds of vultures waiting outside or the mentally challenged landlord from breaking in.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:53 pm to dewster
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They are trespassing at best, obstructing an investigation at worse.
Being as the owner let them in, trespassing will be difficult to prove. And the LA times has it in writing from the FBI that it was cleared the night before.
If it wasn't, you don't think they would be cuffing people at this point?
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:53 pm to fouldeliverer
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I'm sure I'll get grilled for it but I find Al Jazeera America very good. They aren't as sensationalist and the topics and discussions are much more intellectual.
I would have to say I agree. I also read a lot of British news sources covering things that happen here in America. It seems like foreign news outlets tend to cover our stories with less bias and more fact than our own media.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:55 pm to dewster
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Some local air-head deputy didn't show up...or didn't get word that they needed someone to watch the place to keep the hundreds of vultures waiting outside or the mentally challenged landlord from breaking in.
Bro, the local law enforcement is about 10× more competent than the FBI. The FBI is a joke.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:56 pm to terd ferguson
BBC and Al Jazeera are great, but I won't support Al Jazeera because it's some terrorists supportin motherfricking shite over in the Middle East
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:59 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Being as the owner let them in, trespassing will be difficult to prove. And the LA times has it in writing from the FBI that it was cleared the night before.
If it wasn't, you don't think they would be cuffing people at this point?
As much as it disgusts me (and I am not a lawyer), assuming those folks paid their December rent, dead or not, I am not sure a landlord has the right to allow the media to invade and pry their personal affects. I think their family has a strong argument against the landlord, particularly the mom thanks to MSNBC broadcasting her info (there is your standing)
Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:00 pm to terd ferguson
Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:01 pm to terd ferguson
The suspects are dead and they have one detained. I am sure if they are going to connect the dots to something greater, they have what they need. They're going to get a lot more from their electronic footprint and that shite was already sent off.
I think this going to turn out as no harm, no foul.
I think this going to turn out as no harm, no foul.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:01 pm to dewster
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Some local air-head deputy didn't show up...or didn't get word that they needed someone to watch the place
Dear lawd yall will be suspicious of everything.
You don't leave and call SBSO dispatch and ask them to send somebody over. Once you execute the warrant you NEVER leave the scene unattended until it is released. If you are important enough to be there, then you know that if you look around and you are the only one there you don't fricking leave until it is released.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:03 pm to bisonduck
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The suspects are dead and they have one detained. I am sure if they are going to connect the dots to something greater, they have what they need. They're going to get a lot more from their electronic footprint and that shite was already sent off.
I think this going to turn out as no harm, no foul.
And I think you're delusional. You can't honestly believe that all those pieces of paper left behind were read through to determine if anything of use was in them... in less than 48 hours that entire scene was adequately processed for information.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:04 pm to bisonduck
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They're going to get a lot more from their electronic footprint and that shite was already sent off.
I think this going to turn out as no harm, no foul.
This is the first time we have seen a photo of the female suspect. The FBI was probably wanting to keep this secret to dig deeper...., until they left the place unguarded.
This post was edited on 12/4/15 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:04 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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If you are important enough to be there, then you know that if you look around and you are the only one there you don't fricking leave until it is released.
You have a much higher opinion of law enforcement than me. I wouldn't put it past them to mistakenly leave it unattended.
Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:05 pm to NYNolaguy1
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it wasn't, you don't think they would be cuffing people at this point?
Like they did with the owner that let them in an took him off in an unmarked police car? Like that you mean?
Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:06 pm to Mizzoufan26
Looks like passport pics on the bed. Possible fakes.
Kleenex on the head board. They were freaks.
Kleenex on the head board. They were freaks.
This post was edited on 12/4/15 at 3:07 pm
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