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re: FBI officially Investigating California shooting as a act of terrorism
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:49 am to UpToPar
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:49 am to UpToPar
quote:Sure, but my point is that it doesn't guarantee you protection against decisions that private citizens make concerning your employment.
This is not entirely true. The first amendment is also applied to the states through the 14th amendment.
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:49 am to upgrayedd
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It appears that the research supports the fact that there ARE in fact increased frequency of mass shootings. It's not the media claiming it. It's research fact.
Because the definition of mass shooting has changed.
Read an article about a second mass shooting yesterday where 3 were injured and one killed. That shite happens everyday and has for a very long time in inner cities.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 9:51 am
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:50 am to upgrayedd
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I would be interested in seeing the metrics used for that study.
Expand one definition, shrink another, tweak a number here and shave a stat there and you can prove any damn thing you want.
Definitely a possibility that "mass shootings" are increasing. But it's probably not for the reason the media wants to admit.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:50 am to Large Farva
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The recent Press Conferences haven't given very much information.
The LO reps doing the press conferences are not to be trusted. They are on the PC train. They lied through their teeth yesterday about not knowing the ethnicity of the shooters. No other reason to hold back that info.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:50 am to upgrayedd
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:50 am to upgrayedd
quote:The neighbor doesn't sound very smart because I don't see how reporting suspicious activity to police, even if it's based on race, would ever come back to you in a public way unless there was really something legitimate about your suspicions. The police aren't going to publish a front page article about possibly racial profiling.
According to a local Los Angeles news report, a neighbor of San Bernardino massacre suspects Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik didn't report suspicious activity at their apartment for fear of being accused of racism.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:50 am to LSUTigersVCURams
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So loony whites don't carry out shootings on innocent people?
More than 1 at a time, though?
Outside of Kleibold and Harris - name an incident where there was more than 1 crazy white person in a spree shooting (outside of criminal schemes gone wrong, like North Hollywood)?
McVeigh had help, but that was a bombing and he did the actual operation alone.
"More than one" = terrorism, regardless of motive, IMHO. If they were devoutly religious Muslims, it is Islamic terrorism at the very least inspired and encouraged by AQ and/or ISIS. I mean, if Confederates long dead - I mean 100 to 150 years in the grave mind you - are responsible for Charleston, modern radical Muslim groups and mosques are DAMNED sure responsible for San Bernadino.
One cannot have it both ways. (Yeah, this is reading like a poliboard thread - impossible to separate it at this point if the press and feds are going to go with the ludicrous "workplace violence" narrative.)
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:51 am to Clames
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quote:
-The increased frequency of mass shootings shootings is alarming.-
Another lie. The media is hyper-focused on them, historically we are seeing the same frequency over the last 2.5 decades which is lower than it was in the 3 decades prior to that.
Good god. This is idiocy.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 9:52 am
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:51 am to JBeam
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Did they ever identify the guy that they took into custody?
All I'm hearing today is that there were 2 shooters (the man and woman that were killed in the shootout yesterday).
The 3rd person that was taken into custody is still a mystery to me. Maybe someone in the wrong place at the wrong time... or maybe someone involved but they haven't come out w/ that info yet.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:52 am to Hog on the Hill
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Sure, but my point is that it doesn't guarantee you protection against decisions that private citizens make concerning your employment.
Define "private citizen." It does if you are employed by the state (including public schools, etc.)
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:52 am to upgrayedd
As embarrassing as CNN has been with their refusal to acknowledge any terrorism angle, I'm a bit perplexed at how workplace violence and terrorism have become mutually exclusive.
Is it possible that this couple are terrorist but had issues at their workplace so that is why they attacked there? Perhaps they were going try and kill many people in the near future and their workplace felt like the best place to do so.
Is it possible that this couple are terrorist but had issues at their workplace so that is why they attacked there? Perhaps they were going try and kill many people in the near future and their workplace felt like the best place to do so.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:52 am to fr33manator
The only thing I worry about is that they're going to ban assault rifles. You can bet your arse if Hillary is elected, they are going to.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:53 am to slackster
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I'm a bit perplexed at how workplace violence and terrorism have become mutually exclusive.
Exactly. This thread has been melting over that for like 15 straight hours and it's just pure semantics.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:53 am to Langston
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Because the definition of mass shooting has changed.
Read an article about a second mass shooting yesterday where 3 were injured and one killed. That shite happens everyday and has for a very long time in inner cities.
OK.
Stick your head in the sand and believe that mass shootings aren't on the rise.
And that has nothing to do with inner city, multiple murders. We're talking about mass shootings.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:53 am to terd ferguson
Yeah, that's very weird.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:54 am to Ace Midnight
Headline on MSNBC calls it "Righteous Indignation"
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:54 am to goldenbadger08
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Headline on MSNBC calls it "Righteous Indignation"
The left appears ready to die on the gun control hill. It is their new abortion/gay marriage.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:55 am to Ace Midnight
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More than 1 at a time, though?
I could say Columbine, but I basically agree with your point.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:55 am to LSUTigersVCURams
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The only thing I worry about is that they're going to ban assault rifles. You can bet your arse if Hillary is elected, they are going to.
Eh, she'll try but the only way she'll pass anything is if it's some milquetoast piece of legislation that puts restrictions on future manufacturing. It likely wouldn't address current gun owners.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:55 am to LSUTigersVCURams
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I could say Columbine,
I did lead with "Outside of Kliebold and Harris"
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 9:56 am
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