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re: FBI officially Investigating California shooting as a act of terrorism

Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:40 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94798 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:40 am to
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I'm asking what is the legal/logical reason for requiring background checks for dealers but not for private transactions.


Because they're allowed the privilege to buy and sell guns through the mail. Because Oswald bought the Carcano through the mail, this was nixed for private citizens.

Private face-to-face transactions are not regulated and have never been regulated.

What is the legal/logical reason for requiring background checks for these transactions?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138151 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:41 am to
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Late to the party today. Is this terrorism or not?


Of course it is, but it's white, pro 2A people's fault according to liberals.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:41 am to
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but would you have really been shocked if this shooting yesterday was done by whites?


Yes
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30790 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:42 am to
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Eh, they said he just moved in, so I don't think that's completely out of the ordinary.

I have moved several times and have never had my boxes mailed to me lol. Always a Uhaul.


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According to a local Los Angeles news report, a neighbor of San Bernardino massacre suspects Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik didn't report suspicious activity at their apartment for fear of being accused of racism.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
113956 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:42 am to
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(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia


The term organized militia was originated in the early 1900's.

The militia that the forefathers spoke of when founding this country was made up of ALL able-bodied citizens.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138151 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:43 am to
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"That's a military tactic for a sustained fight," the source told Fox News of the rollout bags.


How the hell is that a "military tactic"?

He completely filled his tank with fuel. That's a known military tactic for driving long distances!
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89507 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:43 am to
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According to a local Los Angeles news report, a neighbor of San Bernardino massacre suspects Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik didn't report suspicious activity at their apartment for fear of being accused of racism.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21695 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:43 am to
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The couple also had GoPro cameras strapped to their body armor and wore tactical clothing, including vests stuffed with ammunition magazines.




That pretty much kills the workplace rampage scenario.

Eta- on second thought I don't need to see innocent civilians getting killed. I would watch the gun battle afterwards though.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 9:46 am
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18926 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:43 am to
National Guard is chiefly Title 32. They are under the C2 of the State's Governor and TAG when on Title 32 or SAD. They can be Federalized to Title 10 status under the C2 of the President if permitted by the Governor.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86057 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:44 am to
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The increased frequency of mass shootings shootings is alarming.


Another lie. The media is hyper-focused on them, historically we are seeing the same frequency over the last 2.5 decades which is lower than it was in the 3 decades prior to that.


Hmmmmm...who to believe? Do I go with Harvard research and the FBI? Or Tigerdroppings poster Clames?
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According to a report released last October, researchers at the Harvard School of Public Health found that the rate of all mass shootings in America had essentially tripled in the previous three years.

Between 1982 and late 2011, mass shootings occurred about every 200 days. But after September 2011, the rate of mass shootings increased to about once every 64 days, according to the Harvard researchers.

WASHINGTON —
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A report released by the F.B.I. on Wednesday confirmed what many Americans had feared but law enforcement officials had never documented: Mass shootings have risen drastically in the past half-dozen years.

There were, on average, 16.4 such shootings a year from 2007 to 2013, compared with an average of 6.4 shootings annually from 2000 to 2006. In the past 13 years, 486 people have been killed in such shootings, with 366 of the deaths in the past seven years. In all, the study looked at 160 shootings since 2000. (Shootings tied to domestic violence and gangs were not included.)

It appears that the research supports the fact that there ARE in fact increased frequency of mass shootings. It's not the media claiming it. It's research fact.


Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5887 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:44 am to
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You're completely missing the point. It is damn near impossible to discuss gun control on this board without useless hyperbole from both sides.


Maybe take all the political stuff over to the Political Board. Just call it a hunch, but you may get a better debate over there.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22872 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:45 am to
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The militia that the forefathers spoke of when founding this country was made up of ALL able-bodied MALE citizens.


FIFY

Watch the liberals' head explode when you suggest that we should go back to only allowing the "militia" as it was once understood to own guns.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138151 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:45 am to
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I have moved several times and have never had my boxes mailed to me lol. Always a Uhaul.

Same here, but it's no clear indicator to me. Then again, I don't know the full story either.

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According to a local Los Angeles news report, a neighbor of San Bernardino massacre suspects Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik didn't report suspicious activity at their apartment for fear of being accused of racism.
This is exactly what liberals wanted, now they've got it.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94798 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:45 am to
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That pretty much kills the workplace rampage scenario.


That alone won't deter them - the disgruntled gay, black reporter that killed his former colleagues wore a GoPro.

It's a millennial thing.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:45 am to
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but would you have really been shocked if this shooting yesterday was done by whites?



Yes


REALLY. So loony whites don't carry out shootings on innocent people? Never happens.
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
18482 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:47 am to
The neighbor was afraid of being labeled a racist. Wonder where she got that from?

Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
113956 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:47 am to
quote:

I'm asking what is the legal/logical reason for requiring background checks for dealers but not for private transactions.


Because dealers can sell guns across state lines. Private parties cannot.

And not all states allow the private sale of firearms.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138151 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:47 am to
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It appears that the research supports the fact that there ARE in fact increased frequency of mass shootings. It's not the media claiming it. It's research fact.

I would be interested in seeing the metrics used for that study.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:48 am to
Did they ever identify the guy that they took into custody?
Posted by fouldeliverer
Lannisport
Member since Nov 2008
13538 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:48 am to
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Well, freedom of speech has pretty much been outlawed if you disagree with the liberal media. You'll get fired from your job if you have an opinion that's not


Good job being hyperbolic. In Turkey you are arrested for insulting the Peesident. A man is facing jail time for creating a meme comparing Erdogan to Gollum. That's an example of limited speech. Have some perspective.
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