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re: Fauci now admits that the Covid “vaccines” cause Myocarditis, particularly in young men

Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:36 am to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:36 am to
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So you "trust the science" of a group of liberal scientists on this particular subject?


I don’t even think that’s a real science even if they say it is. You have to just look around you to see that. But of course the warmongers think it’s impossible that it will ever happen.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19066 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:36 am to
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But were they forced?


No.

He asked that poster to name them. And you're missing the point. The side effects of the COVID19 shot are not some out of the ordinary thing in the world of medicine. They just lied about them, or omitted them from public discussion, instead of being upfront about them so they could force it.

I'm on your side here, it's just we need to have a cogent argument based in science, not OMLandshark sky screaming.

This post was edited on 10/1/24 at 8:40 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135739 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:37 am to
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Bold claim. Can you back that up with any statistics? Link to anything that supports this statement?
You're kidding, right?

>7 million deaths have been caused from what is very very likely a Gain-of-Function accident. Gain-of-Function work is something Fauci was and still is fanatical about. He is a GOF zealot to the extent that he oversaw efforts to circumvent US law, funding GOF coronavirus work in Wuhan through Ecohealth Alliance. Without Fauci's work it is highly likely CV19 would not exist at all, and 7 million people would still be alive.

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Documents obtained by The Intercept contain new evidence that the Wuhan Institute of Virology and the nearby Wuhan University Center for Animal Experiment, along with their collaborator, the U.S.-based nonprofit EcoHealth Alliance, have engaged in what the U.S. government defines as “gain-of-function research of concern,” intentionally making viruses more pathogenic or transmissible in order to study them, despite stipulations from a U.S. funding agency that the money not be used for that purpose.

Grant money for the controversial experiment came from the National Institutes of Health’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, which is headed by Anthony Fauci. The award to EcoHealth Alliance, a research organization which studies the spread of viruses from animals to humans, included subawards to Wuhan Institute of Virology and East China Normal University. The principal investigator on the grant is EcoHealth Alliance President Peter Daszak, who has been a key voice in the search for Covid-19’s origins.

The Intercept
Sep 9, 2021


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In an unlikely but conceivable turn of events, what if that scientist becomes infected with the virus, which leads to an outbreak and ultimately triggers a pandemic? Many ask reasonable questions: given the possibility of such a scenario—however remote—should the initial experiments have been performed and/or published in the first place, and what were the processes involved in this decision?

... I have said that the benefits of such experiments and the resulting knowledge outweigh the risks.

Anthony Fauci
Oct 9, 2012

Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19066 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:38 am to
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April of 2021 the CDC listed myocarditis as a potential side effect of the vaccine

No need to believe anything from the OP. This is not new news or an admission of any kind


Fair enough and yes that's correct. By "they" I meant the folks on television telling everyone to get it. And society basically forcing everyone to get it.

I am somehow debating this against both sides in this thread by trying to take a reasonable middle ground, what an example of the polarization of the topic.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:39 am to
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I should have been more clear. I don’t believe it could have been achieved *by the vaccine


Yes, that is definitely 100% true. We could not have vaccinated our way out of it.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133583 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:39 am to
That little weasel should be drawn and quartered and have it live-streamed
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108697 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:40 am to
The middle ground is simple

The vaccine did work and is safe

It never should have been mandated

People never should have lied and said it can 100% prevent the virus. It’s a coronavirus. That’s ridiculous

The end
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19066 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:42 am to
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The middle ground is simple

The vaccine did work and is safe

It never should have been mandated

People never should have lied and said it can 100% prevent the virus. It’s a coronavirus. That’s ridiculous

The end


I agree and said this earlier:

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In hindsight, they shouldn't have called it a vaccine (just a shot like a flu shot) or said it would prevent you from getting or spreading COVID, but rather if you get the shot it has a high likelihood of limiting the symptoms, so someone who is at serious risk with comorbidities (fat, old, etc.) it makes sense to risk the side effects of the shot.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108697 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:42 am to
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Yes, that is definitely 100% true. We could not have vaccinated our way out of it.
the vaccine absolutely would and was a big help for helping the older community or vulnerable community in achieving base immunity to COVID

The way to handle this was zero restrictions, but the populace use common sense and let the young and healthy live and continue to run the country. Once the vaccine was developed it is taken by the vulnerable and elderly and they re enter as well.
This post was edited on 10/1/24 at 8:43 am
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
2437 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:43 am to
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I'm on your side here, it's just we need to have a cogent argument based in science


Agree. There are 2 separate issues.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
55012 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:43 am to
.03% chance of dying from the Wuhan flu, frick the government and media for scaring people to take an experimental vaccine against a Virus.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108697 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:44 am to
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or scaring people to take an experimental vaccine against a Virus.
why bold Virus? Do you think vaccines aren’t successful against viruses?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135739 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:46 am to
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That’s bullshite because the heart is the one organ in your body that doesn’t heal.


100% recovery from myocarditis not only occurs, it is the most common outcome. The danger is CHF or related dysrhythmia during the inflammatory phase.

Myocardial cancer, while rare, also occurs, most often it's a sarcoma.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:46 am to
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The vaccine did work and is safe


No it didn’t and no it isn’t. We wont know the full effects of these “vaccines” (which it wasn’t a vaccine but an experimental gene therapy) for at least another six years. There’s a reason vaccines are tested for a fricking decade before they are put on the market.

Look at the excess death tolls? When does it plummet? It’s not when the “vaccines” were put on the market, it’s when Omicron hits. Omicron and not the “vaccines” ended Covid.

Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:46 am to
I mean Fauchi should be in prison for a variety of reasons, but on the other side, Trump and Biden both listened to that insane power hungry weasel.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:48 am to
99% of this board simped for the vaccine and got vaccinated themselves

now they pretend llke that never happened?

beyond embarrassing
Posted by Rick9Plus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2020
2437 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:49 am to
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The vaccine did work and is safe


It sort of worked based on your definition of “worked” and is no less safe than some other meds with horrible side effects that are commonly taken. That i can agree on.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:49 am to
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the vaccine absolutely would and was a big help for helping the older community or vulnerable community in achieving base immunity to COVID


There is an argument to be made that maybe for seven months with the elderly it might have worked, and that’s being generous, but after getting infected with the actual virus, doesn’t matter how old you are, you should not have gotten it after that.

And regardless the “vaccine” wasn’t what it was sold to us as, and that’s a crime against humanity. Biggest regret of my life bar none is getting that “vaccine.” Didn’t get boosted thank God.
This post was edited on 10/1/24 at 8:50 am
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:50 am to
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Biggest regret of my life bar none is getting that “vaccine.”


i tried to warn all of you

takes an IQ above 115 to see through these scams
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108697 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 8:51 am to
The way democrats and others sold the vaccine was wrong

“100% will prevent all transmission”

“You will die if you don’t get it”

Etc etc is ridiculous lying

However, not a single person with a functioning brain should be relying on those people to help inform their decisions.

If you regret getting the vaccine you need to take a long hard look at yourself and decision making skills
This post was edited on 10/1/24 at 8:52 am
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