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re: Family of LSU student Max Gruver awarded $6.1 million in damages over hazing death.

Posted on 3/11/23 at 4:38 pm to
Posted by KennabraTiger
Kenner, LA
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 3/11/23 at 4:38 pm to
I wonder what Alton Sterling’s family thinks of this
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
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Posted on 3/11/23 at 4:44 pm to
.495 is mad drunk
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
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Posted on 3/11/23 at 5:23 pm to
Offering obedience to fraternity bullchit is root cause #1.
Posted by USMCguy121
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Posted on 3/11/23 at 5:29 pm to
Damn
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/11/23 at 5:38 pm to
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I think it is 2 percent of $6.1 million.

Louisiana article 2323 (comparative fault).



So, in a case such as this, the jury determines the family is to receive $6.1M from the various parties at fault. Do they then place a percentage owed by each person/entity at fault? Or is that done before hand? Concurrently?

Are they allowed to consider that the victim in the case may have been at fault, and if so, do they place a percentage on him/her as well to subtract from the final damages?

It seems like all of the various parties found to be at fault would all file separate appeals of the verdict as well as their percentage owed. Meaning years of deliberations and court filings.
Posted by Misnomer
Member since Apr 2020
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Posted on 3/11/23 at 5:47 pm to
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You'd be amazed at the self-destructive steps someone will take to be accepted or fit in.


I agree with this and no doubt Max initially participated, however IIRC they poured liquor down his barely conscious throat and didn't render aid when they should have? Did I remember this story right?
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/11/23 at 5:55 pm to
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however IIRC they poured liquor down his barely conscious throat


I think that would generate criminal charges at that point?
Posted by Misnomer
Member since Apr 2020
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Posted on 3/11/23 at 5:55 pm to
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It seems like all of the various parties found to be at fault would all file separate appeals of the verdict as well as their percentage owed. Meaning years of deliberations and court filings.


They aren't appealing shite because the defendants all settled before the trial.

quote:

The Gruvers sued LSU, Phi Delta Theta, and multiple fraternity members over their sons death. By the time of the civil trial this week, they had reached settlements with all defendants except fraternity member Ryan Matthew Isto and his insurance company.


Posted by Misnomer
Member since Apr 2020
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Posted on 3/11/23 at 6:16 pm to
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I think that would generate criminal charges at that point?


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A former Louisiana State University student has been sentenced to five years in prison in the 2017 hazing death of fraternity pledge Max Gruver


Abcnews

Im looking for the details. Not 100% sure but do I remember them giving him liquor when he was helpless FUBAR and telling him it was water? It was a long time ago. They definitely had responsibility in getting his BAC to an astounding .495.

I'm good with the fraternity being sued...stupid enough to plan an event to haze kids with binging hard liquor. Make an expensive example out of that shite.
Posted by AA77
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Posted on 3/11/23 at 6:19 pm to
Christ the King is using the house for student ministers.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11409 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 6:52 pm to
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The Gruvers sued LSU, Phi Delta Theta, and multiple fraternity members over their sons death. By the time of the civil trial this week, they had reached settlements with all defendants except fraternity member Ryan Matthew Isto and his insurance company.



Got it.

So the trial verdict sets damages at $6.1M and declares that Isto was 2% at fault and thereby owes 2% of the $6.1M. My question was more to the order of things. Did Isto's attorneys/insurance carrier know going into trial that he would owe 2% of any damages awarded? Or was that decided at trial?
Posted by Elleshoe
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 3/11/23 at 6:56 pm to
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I think it is 2 percent of $6.1 million. Louisiana article 2323 (comparative fault). I’ll look it up, but that’s what I heard.


You think? I thought you are a lawyer
This post was edited on 3/11/23 at 6:56 pm
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
52196 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 7:10 pm to
State cap. LSU isn’t a deep pocket here.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 3/11/23 at 8:00 pm to
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Found the verdict form. Everyone had settled except Ryan Isto. He was apportioned 2% liability. They can recover $122,000 on that judgment.


Defense verdict then.

I still think the kid bears the majority of the fault; he knew what he was getting into. All he had to do was walkaway.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8366 posts
Posted on 3/11/23 at 8:01 pm to
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Did Isto's attorneys/insurance carrier know going into trial that he would owe 2% of any damages awarded? Or was that decided at trial?


Jury decided that. I bet the family had $250k in coverage plus an umbrella. I’m sure the kid’s family wanted limits so kudos to Allstate for telling them to go prove their case to a jury.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 3/11/23 at 8:01 pm to
Gruver looks like he was transitioning
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