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re: Facts from district attorney (Georgia shooting)

Posted on 5/9/20 at 11:54 am to
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 11:54 am to
Interesting that the opinion cites the citizens arrest law, which requires a crime be committed in the presence of the arresting citizens, but the letter does not describe the crime committed or state that it occurred in the presence of the arresting citizens.

The opinion comes off as a hypothetical justification rather than a statement of facts.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22926 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 11:55 am to
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Except this is incorrect according to the suspects


Yes, this is correct. Greg McMichael stated this fact to the police in his statement in the police report. They DID NOT see Arbery at or on the property in question that morning. They ONLY SAW him jogging on the road past their house when they decided to get guns & chase him.

Their reasoning for the chase was that they had previously saw past surveillance footage supplied by the owner of the property in question & ASSUMED it was Arbery on the footage. The owner himself refuses to show any of the surveillance footage but has made a statement saying the footage only shows a person on it committing trespassing & NOT BURGLARY. The McMichael's reasoning for the chase & Barnhill's written statement for no arrest is bullshite (NO FELONY BEING COMMITTED NOR DID THE MCMICHAEL'S WITNESS ANY CRIME BEING COMMITTED) & doesn't meet the criteria for a citizen's arrest in the state of Georgia. This why the GBI, once they took over the investigation, where able to obtain arrests warrants so quickly. It's also why Jackie Johnson & George Barnhill are in deep shite too.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 11:57 am to
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Ice Cold
+1
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22926 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

Interesting that the opinion cites the citizens arrest law, which requires a crime be committed in the presence of the arresting citizens, but the letter does not describe the crime committed or state that it occurred in the presence of the arresting citizens.


The official police report states criminal trespass as the crime in question for a citizen's arrest which doesn't meet the criteria for a citizen's arrest. This is why the police at the scene wanted to arrest the McMichael's but were told by D.A. Jackie Johnson to stand down.

Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66080 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:05 pm to
Any thought outside of "hang em" will anger the crowd. Even if you say they are scum and guilty of murder.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127363 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:08 pm to
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BigBrod81
Boom.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22926 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:11 pm to
Notice the police noted also they were investigating the incident as a homicide.
Posted by TruBrew
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2019
2261 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:12 pm to
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Shooting was self defense. Guys should walk.






And then there are those who are just simply racist. It is what it is.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66080 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:16 pm to
Majority of people are racist. Does it even matter anymore?
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21122 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:17 pm to
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Notice the police noted also they were investigating the incident as a homicide.

You sound like you don't know the meaning of the word homicide. Literally not a single soul on either side debates if it was a homicide.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:18 pm to
Why don't you give some highlights before just throwing a link out there?
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17570 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:19 pm to
The DA states in that letter that the McMichaels were in hot pursuit of a criminal suspect.

Funny, I thought it was the cops job to be in hot pursuit of criminals? Furthermore, by their own admission, they pursued him because they saw he was running im the neighborhood, and thought he could be up to no good. Does running in a neighborhood make one a criminal suspect now?

Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22926 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:27 pm to
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I read the DA's opinion. Those are reasonable enough arguments against a murder charge and I'm sure their defense attorney can make those arguments during their murder trial.


That's nice & all but Greg McMichael's own statements to the officers who investigated the crime scene contradicts the George Barnhill's citizen's arrest reasoning for not arresting the McMichael's.



There is no way the McMichael's or their lawyer(s) can spin this. Either Greg initially lied to the police who arrived on the scene or any future statement he makes that deviates from this initial statement is a lie.
Posted by Inspector85
Member since Mar 2020
7 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:38 pm to
So that you read the letter in full prior to commenting , like 80% of yall did. So i guess it didnt work did it?
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
5222 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:45 pm to
The SECOND district attorney that had to recuse themselves. This guy is a dolt; I knew him when I lived down there.
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
5222 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:46 pm to
That's the first one that had to recuse.

This clown is the second to recuse.
Posted by FAP SAM
Member since Sep 2014
3252 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:47 pm to
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like 80% of yall did

It's almost like people don't want to click blind links without excerpts of what may be contained in said link
Posted by FAP SAM
Member since Sep 2014
3252 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:50 pm to
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That's the first one that had to recuse.

This clown is the second to recuse.

Yea Brod corrected me a couple pages back, my bad

But my point still stands that this statement is ridiculous and obviously an attempt to sway public opinion in order to help his friends
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22926 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:51 pm to
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So i guess it didnt work did it?


No, you just suck. Post less.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22926 posts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 12:57 pm to
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But my point still stands that this statement is ridiculous and obviously an attempt to sway public opinion in order to help his friends


Yep, Barnhill's attempt to justify the shooting using the citizen's arrest law as a cover for not arresting the McMichael's is a joke. None of the criteria was met for a citizen's arrest to be justified according to the actual law.
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