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re: Explosion in obesity related to decline in smoking?

Posted on 7/4/18 at 8:50 pm to
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 8:50 pm to
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And this whole “fat shaming” stigma thing that gives people an excuse for their terrible lifestyle.




Fats need to STFU
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 8:55 pm to
Clearly. I can’t believe people are trying to deny the link.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:11 am to
I was not saying this was THE factor, but question whether it could be A factor.

I just remember my dad was rail thin when he smoked (and he had a "white collar" job then) but definitely started putting one weight after he quit.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:13 am to
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Never understood the whole "appetite suppressant" bullshite. If anything, I ate more when I smoked. Reason, the best cigarette was always after a good meal.


I don’t believe you. It’s absolutely an appetite suppressant. Meaning you don’t have much of an appetite after you smoke.

Smoking after eating has no effect on that.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19522 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:16 am to
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I’d attribute it more to technology allowing people to make little or no effort to get whatever it is they want, while also allowing food of any type and kind to be delivered to their door.


I think modern obesity rates are tied to air conditioning. Prior to AC, there was a discomfort penalty that came with being fat. Now people just stay in 70 degree rooms and there’s no apparent downside.
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
1944 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:18 am to
It's because of the availability of calorie rich food.
Our bodies don't know we are fat, and we are made to maintain what we have, homeostasis.

It's not normal to be in a calorie deficit, and we're rewarded with eating. So when we're hungry we eat calorie rich food and gain weight. It's a cycle.
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8817 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:24 am to
Today's obesity problem starts in childhood and has been ramping up since the 90's. smoking has nothing to do with it.

Kids learn to be inactive, reward themselves with food and electronics, and carry those habits into adulthood.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
52999 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:31 am to
Most large people are that way because of genetics
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:31 am to
It’s the person who eats a family size bag of Doritos and drinks a 64 oz soda for breakfast every morning. I know her. She has since had bypass surgery and lost a lot of weight. She never smoked a day in her life.
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:51 am to
you sure the fatness isn't from the return of Twinkies?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98814 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:21 am to
Goddamnit...

A factor

Not

THE factor.

I concede diet and activity in the OP
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
3977 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:30 am to
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I’d attribute it more to technology allowing people to make little or no effort to get whatever it is they want, while also allowing food of any type and kind to be delivered to their door.



People were fat way before Waitr.

The answer is primarily poor people.

I think the better way to state the OP is has our society replaced a nicotine addiction with a sugar addiction, and I believe the answer to that is a resounding yes,
Posted by 995webmaster
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
3780 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:41 am to
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obesity related to decline in smoking?


It's mostly due to cheese-in-the-crust pizza, super-sized servings of everything, double grande mocha frappuccinos, pizza delivery to the beach, etc., etc. Oh, and those millions of pig people who treat the world like it's one big trough.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 10:11 am to
It’s cheaper to be at than it is too starve these days
Posted by YungFO
Dallas
Member since Mar 2018
1046 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 11:11 am to
I truly don't understand this explosion of obesity. I'm 28 and from New Orleans (all the old folks are fat) but everyone around my age seems to be much more health conscious than the previous generation. I litreally dont have a single obese friend. Idk where all these fatwads are coming from.

Maybe im fat prejudice?
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41125 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 12:16 pm to
I'm convinced weight gain is the reason my wife hasn't quit smoking.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3015 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 1:30 pm to
First to blame: The people themselves, but that's the easy argument.

Also to blame: The USDA and media for 30 years, for buying the sugar industry BS that it's not sugar that leads to obesity, it's fat. As a result, we spent the last 30 years stocking our grocery shelves with "low fat" items.

Of course, you still need your calories, so where else to get them? Oh yeah, carbs! Now, what's the cheapest way for a manufacturer to add carbs to a food .... sugar!! As a double bonus, when the resulting insulin rush shoves all of that sugar into your cells at once, and your body can't use it right away, it stores it as fat. Without other nutrients (i.e. fat) you're hungry again 2 hours later and it's time to snack!

And of course, the overwhelming majority of snack food is either loaded with sugar or refined carbs.

Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11089 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 1:42 pm to
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The USDA and media for 30 years, for buying the sugar industry BS that it's not sugar that leads to obesity, it's fat. As a result, we spent the last 30 years stocking our grocery shelves with "low fat" items.


This post was edited on 7/6/18 at 1:44 pm
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