re: Explain the incel “movement” to me like I’m an idiot

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So when I see little beta men complaining about not getting action I just want to tell them to jog a few miles, wash your nasty arse buy a decent shirt grab your sack and go chat up somebody. You will win some and lose some but it ain’t gonna happen if you don’t put it out there.

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well this is what my philosophy is for incels. they need to create better versions of themselves. instead they do the opposite and check out of society

Does anyone remember the sexodus? same shite

MGTOW is a voluntary celibate (ish). they're a much more interesting group b/c they can get laid but choose to avoid the rat race

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The shame of rejection stings and sadly not a lot of people are emotionally capable for handling it.

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I'm not great at it, but then I quickly realize that person is not worth my time anyway

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they're ugly and shitty people

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the issue is that ugly and shitty women can sill get laid and that's frustrating as hell

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but their view of what a romantic relationship entails is about as far from reality as you can get.

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now you're creating a straw man here

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Many straight up admit their ideal girl is a sex bot that will also clean and cook.

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bias due to learned helplessness

imagine your life if you had been rejected any time you attempted romance. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. you'd become jaded

hell throw in some emotional manipulation via the FZ and it creates a scary situation. that's how you create supreme gentlemen

Great way to look at it Red and you’re absolutely right.

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they also fricking reak of desperation.

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Of course they do.

This is what happens when desperate people group together.

The question Scruffy has is, have these individuals always existed or are they a new subset of society?

Maybe they have always existed, they just happen to be larger in number now.

Back in the day, many of these individuals were able to find women who would marry them because the individuals and society as a whole weren’t as interconnected.

At least that is Scruffy’s theory.

Women had to “settle”.

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VERY WEIRD TIMING

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This is what happens when desperate people group together.

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yes. this is a BIG problem. when broken people find each other and create echo chambers, it can lead to really bad results

i mean i frick around here or there with going to TRP-related subreddits and it gets fricking hypnotizing after a while. the same rhythm, cadence, patterns, etc.

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Back in the day, many of these individuals were able to find women who would marry them because the individuals and society as a whole weren’t as interconnected.

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i keep phrasing this more in line with educated people above the lower class b/c they're the primary cultural group still marrying

the lower class isn't marrying anymore so that creates ts own dynamic

That has an overall general application to society, but doesn’t explain why this group of weak men has increased in size.

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Hard times make strong men

Strong men make good times

Good times make weak men

Weak men make hard times

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Ive always liked that quote, but it’s bullshite.