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Posted on 5/23/16 at 1:08 pm to IT_Dawg
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How about a slide?
no shite! put a big red button to 'tap out' at the summit then slide all the way back down to the parking lot.
sure beats hiking back.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 1:19 pm to CAD703X
It still takes a hell of an athlete to reach the summit but the whole experience has been diminished greatly due to the excessive amounts of people trying to do the climb and all the fixed lines put up by the sherpas. Not worth the money and risk in my opinion. The high altitude summit climbs don't really do it for me in general though
Posted on 5/23/16 at 1:20 pm to IT_Dawg
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Or why not just light that shite on fire before the winter, when no one is gonna climb it anyways
Hmmm... up there, is there enough oxygen to sustain a fire?
Posted on 5/23/16 at 1:57 pm to Kujo
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both began suffering from high-altitude pulmonary edema, which caused fluid to build up in Strydom’s brain
That's terrible reporting. Pulmonary edema causes fluid to build up in the lungs. You drown in your own fluids.
Cerebral edema would be fluid building up in the brain.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 2:01 pm to ninthward
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Lol Everest is not a non-accomplishment, Denali is not in the death zone. People die up there, Everest is not an environment humans can sustain.
Denali can have worse weather that Everest because of the latitude. It's also so big that it creates its own weather patterns.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 2:07 pm to VABuckeye
Are there any working live Webcams of everest now?
Posted on 5/23/16 at 2:12 pm to GetCocky11
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know climbing Everest isn't what it used to be, but to say it is "amateur hour" is ignorant.
I'd say 50% or more that try are amateur.....and when things constantly go bad and fail, that's when people call it amateur hour.
NOT the pros that reach the top, genius.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 2:17 pm to CAD703X
K2 is harder to climb
Posted on 5/23/16 at 2:29 pm to jb4
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K2 is harder to climb
And more dangerous. Annapurna I is even more dangerous, with a 32% fatality-to-summit ratio (although K2 is no slouch, in 2nd place with 26.5%).
Compare that to Everest's piddling 3.9%, barely ahead of a Lhotse, another safe 8000m and Chu Oyo, the "training wheels" of 8000m peaks.
This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 5/23/16 at 2:30 pm to jb4
True.
One of the big problems with Everest is that one of the most difficult parts of the climb (The Hillary Step) is near the top of the mountain. Severe bottlenecks occur in a place where no one should be standing around.
-Ed Viesturs-
One of the big problems with Everest is that one of the most difficult parts of the climb (The Hillary Step) is near the top of the mountain. Severe bottlenecks occur in a place where no one should be standing around.
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It’s become routine to have to wait two or three hours to tackle the Hillary Step.
-Ed Viesturs-
Posted on 5/23/16 at 2:43 pm to Ace Midnight
Anyone else ever seen the "Meru" documentary?? I'd put that mountain up there with k2 if not ahead in difficulty.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 2:53 pm to Ace Midnight
Nepal is implementing a policy requiring that you summit another 8000m peak before attempting Everest. That should help. And while it was very crowded at one point, it's not as bad as it used to be. And some of the trash has been cleaned up.
A major problem was that the cost to attempt dropped to as low as $7k, which let any average person attempt.
A major problem was that the cost to attempt dropped to as low as $7k, which let any average person attempt.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 2:54 pm to Shepherd88
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Anyone else ever seen the "Meru" documentary??
I have not.
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I'd put that mountain up there with k2 if not ahead in difficulty.
I've climbed mountains, but I'm not a mountaineer. The fact that Meru is not an 8000m probably takes it out of consideration. K2 is probably the most difficult technical climb among the 8000ers - and that certainly puts it into contention for most difficult in the world. Plus it's extremely deadly.
The added challenge of the 8000er is you have to summit and get back down. Most folks buy it coming back down. They think Mallory died after summiting Everest, for example, and he was probably the finest mountaineer who ever lived up until that time.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 2:57 pm to Xenophon
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Nepal is implementing a policy requiring that you summit another 8000m peak before attempting Everest.
Even if they made everyone summit Lhotse or Chu Oyo first before even attempting Everest, K2, Annapurna, etc. that would probably do wonders. The companies, for insurance purposes, should do a better job of vetting their customers, anyway. And regardless of other considerations, getting a climb out of the way above 8000m - however "easy" it is relatively (make no mistake about it - Everest is no "easier" than it was in 1952 - it is no "lower" than it was, then, either), than the more challenging climbs - Everest is of at least middling difficulty based on the number of folks up there, the sheer height of it and the unpredictable nature of the snow there - even relative to other 8000m climbs, Everest is no cakewalk.
This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 5/23/16 at 3:02 pm to Ace Midnight
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Everest is no cakewalk
As made evident by all of the dead bodies laying around up there.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 3:03 pm to Ace Midnight
man seeing that line of people makes it seem like it wouldnt even be that fun.
of course im sure nothing is fun about being that high but having THAT many people around you at that height seems like it would cheapen it to me.
of course im sure nothing is fun about being that high but having THAT many people around you at that height seems like it would cheapen it to me.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 3:06 pm to Ace Midnight
Check it out if you get a chance. What makes it so difficult is the shark fin. These climbers have to camp in a cliff hanger tent during their approach. Once they get above the snow, they have to scale a shale wall.
In the documentary they would tap into this wall to place a brace and entire sheets of granite would fall off, so there was no telling if what you tapped into was stable or not.
Once these 3 Americans summited the mountain they had trench foot and frost bite on their feet.
In the documentary they would tap into this wall to place a brace and entire sheets of granite would fall off, so there was no telling if what you tapped into was stable or not.
Once these 3 Americans summited the mountain they had trench foot and frost bite on their feet.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 3:08 pm to Shepherd88
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Meru
I mentioned this earlier, and caught again this a.m.
It's around 8k lower, but the climbers in the doc all echoed that it was far more technical climb than Everest - and all the big-wall gear, porto-ledge etc. has to go on your back with no Sherpas around. Nobody else had even made it up the "Shark's Fin" before them.
Not to diminish how deadly Everest can be, but it was interesting to hear what some top climbers had to say about it.
Posted on 5/23/16 at 3:09 pm to HippieTiger
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It still takes a hell of an athlete to reach the summit
Not really.
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