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re: Ever heard of the Münster Rebellion and the execution of Jan Van Leiden?

Posted on 9/11/25 at 8:11 pm to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 8:11 pm to
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Always seems weird how normalized torture and gore were for regular folks in times past. You just want to go to church and some skinless, castrated dude is just rotting in a cage above the door.


The every day person still slaughtered their own meat
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 8:16 pm to
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some people say it’s his best


One of his best one offs, for sure.

For me it's the period and the wildness of it. A cult just takes over a normal city, who allows it thinking they can control it until they can't. What happened is crazy. The multiple wives, the wantonness, the cannibalism.

And then set it in the early modern era of pike and shot and early cannons.

The execution at the end is just the cherry on top if you like this period. I'm big on the 30 years war too. Full of drama and tactics and weirdness.
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:36 pm to
It worked...when have you ever heard of another anabaptist rebel?
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 1:30 am to
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After the siege was over, Jan Van Leiden, the leader of the movement, was publicly executed over 6 hours. Using tongs heated in a brazier, they ripped chunks of his skin out, methodically, to maximize pain and suffering.



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They ripped off his genitals and burned them. He and his cohorts were slowly torn to bits, then executed with a dagger to the heart to finish them...but it was not over.


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Once the torture and execution were complete, their bodies were loaded into cages and hoisted 40 feet in the air from St. Lambert's Church, where they desiccated and rotted, until nothing but their bones remained.


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These cages hung with the skeletons of the condemned for centuries, a grisly reminder of the fate that awaited those who might follow in their footsteps.





Like I always say to Confederate Apologists on here when they ask why Revolutionaries aren't considered traitors but the Confederates are traitors for "Doing the same thing".

If you're going to rebel against the Government, you'd better win.

That quote seems to apply here as well.

Remember this man's fate before you decide to start a Civil War.
This post was edited on 9/12/25 at 1:33 am
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133009 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:51 am to
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It worked...when have you ever heard of another anabaptist rebel?



How do you keep an anabaptist from drinking all your beer on a fishing trip?


Bring another anabaptist...
And then methodically flay him with burning tongs and tear his genitals from his body.
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 8:08 am to
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37271 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:14 am to
Sounds like the guy was an a-hole and deserved it.
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a law John passed stating that any unmarried woman must accept the first proposal of marriage made to her, with the result that men competed to acquire the most wives. Some sources report that John himself took sixteen wives aside from his "Queen" Divara van Haarlem, and that he publicly beheaded one of his wives, Elisabeth Wandscherer, after she rebelled against his authority.
This post was edited on 9/12/25 at 9:27 am
Posted by Champagne
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 10:10 am to
Very fascinating and very telling.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53187 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 10:11 am to
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How do you keep an anabaptist from drinking all your beer on a fishing trip?


Bring another anabaptist...
And then methodically flay him with burning tongs and tear his genitals from his body.


Excellent new joke! I can't wait to tell it at my LSU football Watch Party tomorrow !!!
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133009 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 12:33 pm to






I mean, it's more of an anti-joke based on an OLD joke.

Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133009 posts
Posted on 9/13/25 at 11:04 pm to
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Sounds like the guy was an a-hole and deserved it.


When given full power communists tend to horribly abuse it, for sure
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