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re: EV owners are increasingly frustrated with home charging, and it should worry EV makers
Posted on 3/28/23 at 11:47 am to ragincajun03
Posted on 3/28/23 at 11:47 am to ragincajun03
This board is obsessed with attacking evs
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Posted on 3/28/23 at 11:53 am to XenScott
I like Peter Zeihan, he seems very knowledgeable.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:53 pm to nola tiger lsu
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This board is obsessed with attacking evs
I'd never get one if I had to tow shite. If I wanted to commute then a Tesla is good. And I got the Lightning because I can make the 45 mile round trip and haul mulch and dirt in the back. I have no complaints. Up here in East Texas I'm seeing a lot of the small Teslas.
There is some underlying redneck anti-green shite going on as to the hate. My wife has the choice of driving the 75 grand '22 Acura MDX or the 80 grand '23 Ford Lightning. She always takes the Lightning.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:11 pm to sandraccoon
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Tell me you are uneducated without telling me you are uneducated The fact that you resorted to calling someone online a moron is concerning; how is the home life going?
Tell me oh smart one, why oh why is it political? No clue on why evs are political?
I have no problem with evs, I have a problem with you morons thinking they are cheaper and saving the planet. They aren’t in every case.
It’s a virtue signal for smug assholes.
This post was edited on 3/28/23 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:20 pm to HippieTiger
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Transition to EV will be a slow roll out, and changes to current infrastructure will happen along the way. Of course the current grid couldn't handle 100% EV. Again, Palo Alto has this figured out very well. There are over 300 public charging stations there, and by far the highest rate of EVs per capita in the country at ~30% of 70k people.
Where I live currently an ev would be a good investment. Where I lived in Nola, not a fat fricking chance.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:23 pm to ragincajun03
There are a few people on this very board that will show up to tell you how this is not the norm, blah, blah, blah...
These idiots have no clue about how anything works. Electricity is not generated by unicorn farts.
These idiots have no clue about how anything works. Electricity is not generated by unicorn farts.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:45 pm to CCT
quote:To what? Your batshit conspiracy theory that the government will control us through EVs, even though it would be just as easy to control us through ICE vehicles too?
And some of you need to open your eyes!!
Is that what I need to open up my eyes too?
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:46 pm to dgnx6
quote:Are you pretending that EVs never got a shite ton of hate before these mandates?
Dude its because they are forcing it you fricking moron.
Good one
quote:Now do gas for your vehicles...
I guarantee you i spend less on energy than you do. Including filling up my ice.
This post was edited on 3/28/23 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:48 pm to dgnx6
quote:So you're in here crying about a made up argument about "saving the planet" and arguing that point against exactly no one, is that what you're doing?
I have no problem with evs, I have a problem with you morons thinking they are cheaper and saving the planet. They aren’t in every case.
The dude calling others "morons" is in this thread literally having a make believe fight with no one on the other side.
This post was edited on 3/28/23 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:49 pm to MightyYat
quote:Were ICE vehicle owners NOT increasingly frustrated with rising gas prices?
There are a few people on this very board that will show up to tell you how this is not the norm, blah, blah, blah...
These idiots have no clue about how anything works. Electricity is not generated by unicorn farts.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:49 pm to shel311
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Now do gas for your vehicles...
He spends $100/month more in electricity than I do, I spend $59/month more on gas than he does.
His lightning also cost 4x the amount of my vehicle.
Now, I would have to do some research on the cheaper ev models to get to where I think it’s more affordable, but he paid 150k on his vehicles. That’s crazy.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:51 pm to dgnx6
quote:You guys have the exact same commute, same miles, same everything?
He spends $100/month more in electricity than I do, I spend $59/month more on gas than he does.
Just want to be certain, you think owning an EV is more expensive to charge than owning an ICE vehicle?
Can't wait to see this answer...
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:52 pm to shel311
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So you're in here crying about a made up argument about "saving the planet" and arguing that point against exactly no one, is that what you're doing?
I was responding to the guy saying why are evs political?
But you are right, saving the planet is not a reason at all. Never once mentioned.
And yes evs were rightfully shat in early on because most were ugly and couldn’t go far.
So looks like I’m arguing with you and not just no one.
This post was edited on 3/28/23 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:54 pm to dgnx6
quote:Sorry, I never said anything about saving the planet, you're back to arguing that topic with no one. I'm rooting for you!!
So looks like I’m arguing with you and not just no one.
quote:At least you are conceding you were wrong and making shite up
And yes evs were rightfully shat in early on because most were ugly and couldn’t go far.
This post was edited on 3/28/23 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:55 pm to shel311
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You guys have the exact same commute, same miles, same everything? Just want to be certain, you think owning an EV is more expensive to charge than owning an ICE vehicle? Can't wait to see this answer...
We could break this down but his car note still makes him the loser.
I simply stated I spend less than him.
I also said it’s not better or cheaper in every situation.
But I’m arguing with a moron.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:57 pm to shel311
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Sorry, I never said anything about saving the planet, you're back to arguing that topic with no one. I'm rooting for you!!
So then you agree with me. The political side of the evs is made up bullshite.
Glad you are being honest.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:58 pm to dgnx6
quote:
We could break this down but his car note still makes him the loser.
So to confirm, anyone with a car note lower than yours, you are a loser compared to them, right?
quote:How's your argument against those "saving the planets" types going in this thread? Are you winning?
But I’m arguing with a moron.
This post was edited on 3/28/23 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:59 pm to dgnx6
quote:f your take is that you're having a fake argument about "saving the planet" posters in this thread who do not exist and getting pretty upset about it, then yes, I do agree with you.
So then you agree with me.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 2:06 pm to shel311
quote:
It's funny the amount of hate that EVs get on here for political reasons.
This is what I was responding to.
If the morons, yes I’m calling the Gavin types and the Biden types morons, weren’t pushing evs as saving the planet, you wouldn’t see the constant pushback on evs.
Now, come down off your high horse.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 2:15 pm to ragincajun03
I didn't read the link, and am just curious-
how much of a hit is it on your electric bill, to keep your car charged? Let's assume everyday driver, normal suburban middle class house.
We already have to deal with the energy bills skyrocketing since the last hurricane here. My bill from Entergy (which, unfortunately for me, was averaged) has been basically double what it had been, for the same consumption. That really fricking sucks.
And when you think about it, EV further limits your options. The power goes out (storm), if I have gas I can drive somewhere with the AC on, charge my phone, listen to the radio for updates, etc. If I'm low in gas, I can stop at the nearest station which might be high, get a gallon or so, and then go to a better station.
If there's a disaster and gas is in demand, I can toss a few cans in my truckbed, sit in line maybe an hour (usu worst case scenario), and then fill up both the truck and the cans for my generator.
You lose literally ALL of this with an EV.
I'm in South La, we've had our share of storms recently. I'd be terrified without gas. I have some electric yard tools, a bunch of Ryobi stuff. Hedge clippers, weedeaters, blowers, pole saws etc. Once you get to the essential level of a mower, I want gas. Anything more essential, I definitely want gas.
how much of a hit is it on your electric bill, to keep your car charged? Let's assume everyday driver, normal suburban middle class house.
We already have to deal with the energy bills skyrocketing since the last hurricane here. My bill from Entergy (which, unfortunately for me, was averaged) has been basically double what it had been, for the same consumption. That really fricking sucks.
And when you think about it, EV further limits your options. The power goes out (storm), if I have gas I can drive somewhere with the AC on, charge my phone, listen to the radio for updates, etc. If I'm low in gas, I can stop at the nearest station which might be high, get a gallon or so, and then go to a better station.
If there's a disaster and gas is in demand, I can toss a few cans in my truckbed, sit in line maybe an hour (usu worst case scenario), and then fill up both the truck and the cans for my generator.
You lose literally ALL of this with an EV.
I'm in South La, we've had our share of storms recently. I'd be terrified without gas. I have some electric yard tools, a bunch of Ryobi stuff. Hedge clippers, weedeaters, blowers, pole saws etc. Once you get to the essential level of a mower, I want gas. Anything more essential, I definitely want gas.
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