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re: Escalating Floods Putting Mississippi River’s Old River Control Structure at Risk

Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:22 am to
Posted by PipelineBaw
TX
Member since Jan 2019
1422 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:22 am to
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They could dredge it out, pile it up, and create a mountain in Louisiana. In a few years it would be the largest mountain in the world! Move over Everest, youve been replaced!

We could start making cool shaped islands like those real OT ballers in Dubai
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 9:24 am to
thats the best you gone get
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39207 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 10:04 am to
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If people looked at what Native Americans and people before the levees were built did then there would be no need for flood insurance.


Did the native americans have a multi-billion dollar industry based on trade, based on the river?

The cost of protection - whatever that is - will be cheaper than the cost of relocation and restructure of our economic systems.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 10:07 am to
That was decided nearly 100 years ago. It was known what would happen environmentally speaking but the benefits of living in an industrialized society was seen as a net benefit.
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
10232 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 10:09 am to
Open the Morganza Spillway.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
10199 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 12:45 pm to
Build your mountain, and wait five years. That mountain would start to sink and your'd get a slow motion effect not unlike the three hundred pound kid doing a cannonball jump into a swimming pool.
Posted by Drunken Crawfish
Member since Apr 2017
3857 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:42 am to
If Old River Control Structure Fails: A Catastrophe with Global Impact

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If the Old River Control Structure (ORCS) were to fail, barge navigation might be interrupted for weeks and possibly months. Barge traffic on the new mainstem of the river--down the Atchafalaya’s channel—would be limited or impossible during the initial months of the channel change, due to turbulent and dangerously unstable conditions. At the split in the river’s channel at the ORCS, the river would dump a massive amount of sediment, potentially blocking navigation downriver on the old Mississippi channel towards Baton Rouge and New Orleans. Navigation might still be possible for a few months after the event with extensive dredging efforts, but the blockage might become so great mere dredging may not keep a clear channel for barge traffic, requiring that a new navigation lock be constructed—a multi-year project costing $100+ million. Closure of the Mississippi to shipping would cost the economy $295 million per day, said Gary LaGrange, executive director of the Port of New Orleans, during the great flood of 2011. Closure for multiple months would cause a cascade of impacts across a broad sector of the U.S. economy, multiplying costs.
Posted by brokelikeajoke
Member since Jan 2019
231 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:00 am to
Who gives a chit. 295mm per day, 10bb per month.

Its a 2 significant digit rounding error on the fed budget.

Life would go on, patterson would become a major shipping hub.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
45562 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:10 am to
Could you imagine how screwed Assumption Parish would be with flooding if that happened? They're dealing with flooding right now just from the Atchafalaya being higher than normal. Let the Mississippi flow into the Atchafalaya and goodbye Assumption.
Posted by Drunken Crawfish
Member since Apr 2017
3857 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:15 am to
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Could you imagine how screwed Assumption Parish would be with flooding if that happened?


Just gives more water for the Landry's to catch their gatas.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 9:58 am to
Every big flood people talk about this and use the " its not 'if' it happens but 'when'"

Shits been repeated so many times that its not even believable any more
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
107994 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 10:01 am to
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Shits been repeated so many times that its not even believable any more


Doesn't make it any less true.

The river will change course. It is inevitable.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 10:17 am to
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The river will change course. It is inevitable


in 2000 years?
Posted by WizardSleeve
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2011
1862 posts
Posted on 5/22/19 at 10:30 am to
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quote:
The river will change course. It is inevitable


in 2000 years?




As long as they have been measuring the overall riverbed height of the lower Mississippi, it grows on overage about 1.1" higher per year. In certain isolated areas, like around ORCS, it grows sometimes a few feet in a year.

Either way, at the rate of 1.1" per year, after 20 years the river will be almost 2' higher than it is today.

In 50 years the river will be almost 5' higher than it is today.

In 100 years it will be almost 10' higher than it is today.

There is no way the levees can keep that in check. It won't take 1000 years. IT won't even take more than a few decades for a catastrophe to be likely. This is the way alluvial rivers work. They deposit sediment and get higher until they can spill over their banks and find a new path to the ocean.
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