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Posted by KG6
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 2:30 pm to
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Thinnest portion would be the OD. Pretty easy pressure calculations after that (gotta get material specs though)


Not really. I mean, you could use that in order to be safe and remove any doubts, but that's not going to give you the actual answer as to what the collapse/burst actually is.

FEA is likely the only solution other than finding an equation buried in some textbook or research paper.
This post was edited on 2/3/16 at 2:32 pm
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 2:44 pm to
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This Paperweight is made from materials not from this earth.


Fine. But the materials it's made of are on Earth.


Try again.
Posted by Gaston
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 3:05 pm to
There're published burst pressure equations. I've used them to create factor of safeties for pressure tests. Don't know the reference off of the top of my head, but I don't remember it being terribly difficult to find.
Posted by redbaron
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 4:57 pm to
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You could assuming the OD is the bottom of the deepest hole

Yup, tried that

quote:

absurdly conservative

And this is why I'm hoping for an alternative method.
Posted by redbaron
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 4:58 pm to
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Try reading the textbook, studying, and going to your professor's office hours. No one is going to do the work for you in the real world


I'm already in the real world
Posted by mikrit54
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:01 pm to
Posted by captainahab
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:32 pm to
Vlod will be on shortly and have the answer.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 5:36 pm to
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Everything on Earth is made from materials from Earth.


What about meteorite particles? Are they made from Earth?
Posted by The Goon
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:02 pm to
Off the top of my head, define burst pressure as the yield stress of the hull. Stress is a function of tensile stress and shear stress with magnitude being square root of the sum of the squares (mohr circle). Write both shear stress and tensile stress as a function of pressure and then solve for pressure.
Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:07 pm to
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Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:08 pm to
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What about meteorite particles? Are they made from Earth?




I already answered that.
Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:09 pm to
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Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 6:13 pm to
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If they weren't made on earth, who made them? Who makes anything?


It all comes back to the same components everywhere.

Light elements + nuclear fusion in a star = heavy elements

Heavy elements gravitate towards one another

Make planets, planetoids, meteorites

Earth is a planet. It is has the same stuff on it that meteorites have.

Therefore, if you know the components of Earth, you know the components of meteorite.


TRY A-frickING-GAIN!
Posted by Sparkplug#1
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 7:01 pm to
From and found are two different words.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 7:14 pm to
Id just model the area around the worst looking hole and stick it in ANSYS and see what that piece yields at. That should give good start if we're assuming that's the weakest point in the vessel.
Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 7:20 pm to
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Posted by TigerFred
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 7:21 pm to
FEA is one of the worst things to use for analysis in many cases because you have to make to many assumptions. Depending on the assumptions used, you can make it work in your favor or against you.

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Posted on 2/3/16 at 7:22 pm to
Getting underqualified people into shite they shouldn't be frickin with since 2012
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